Are N. Arlington elementaries more or less diverse than area parochials/privates?

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Anonymous wrote:Some are more or as diverse as the parochials - Glebe, Science Focus, Key, Arlington Traditional are the ones that stand out in that respect. These schools are all north of Rte. 50 but if you are talking about the "coveted" N. Arlington schools that people move to Arlington for (see the current thread on ''best elementary schools in Arlington'' then no, those schools are less diverse.

And that's OK, by the way. It isn't clear to me why anyone keeps asserting diversity is some educational virtue as if that's a given. That's how we end up with the implication that if someone focuses on other metrics -- say, achievement -- they're somehow racist. It's silly. As if anyone in the "coveted" North Arlington schools wouldn't be equally comfortable with their children in ASFS or ATS (many probably applied and didn't win the lottery, natch).

The Supreme Court has expressly ruled that educational diversity is a compelling interest.

Esteemed educators, those. It also ruled corporations are a person, so.

Apples and oranges.

As was you injecting the Supreme Court into this in the first place. Who gives a crap what the Supreme Court says about diversity in schools. That still doesn't make it an EDUCATIONAL virtue.

The assertion seemed to be that diversity was not an educational virtue. The highest court of the land has said otherwise. That undermines the assertion.

I think you've confused "compelling interest" with "educational virtue." Diversity isn't a raw ingredient for stronger schools and academic achievement. There's plenty of evidence that single-sex or otherwise homogenous schools outperform others.

More important, as I said, the Supreme Court has ALSO said that corporations are people. It also inserted George W. Bush as president. And done any number of stupid things.

Upholding affirmative action in education was not a stupid thing. It rests on the diversity rationale.

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Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

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When your child is in the minority, you care about diversity, and it does matter.

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Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

Completely agree.

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Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

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To go back to OPs question, my kids are in Catholic in N. Arlington and I'd say that the Catholic has a lot of Hispanic diversity (Latinos whose parents/grandparents came from many different countries). They may be as much as 50%; I haven't really paid attention but it's sort of a white/Latino community. Not a lot of AAs or Asians but not zero, either.

Anyways, my point is, it's diverse, but not as diverse as the nearby publics. (This is based on me driving past the publics as the kids are going to/coming from school)

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Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

Wow. Yeah, some of those are a lot less diverse than even the toniest privates.

Hope people realize that ASF does not have any bearing on admission to a certain nationally known high school in the area. Sounds like a weird school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

It's about economic disparities. Not sure what can be done about that, if anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

It's about economic disparities. Not sure what can be done about that, if anything.

Choice schools
Busing
Boundary changes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

The difference is who goes looking for segregated neighborhoods. I'm a real estate agent. Most of the racial preferences I get come from black people. As in, "I don't want to live near no white folks."

Just sayin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

It's about economic disparities. Not sure what can be done about that, if anything.

Choice schools
Busing
Boundary changes

I'm with you on two of those. Busing was an epic failure, though. I am envisioning a broader, radical reengineering of US society--how we live, where we live, zoning laws, etc., to eliminate disparities. But my socialist vision is currently far fetched.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

Wow. Yeah, some of those are a lot less diverse than even the toniest privates.

Hope people realize that ASF does not have any bearing on admission to a certain nationally known high school in the area. Sounds like a weird school.

Pretty sure that anyone who wants to send their kids to TJ just lives over in Fairfax County where there are a lot more slots. And yes, it is a weird school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

Completely agree.

It appears that Asians do not "covet" any school in APS other than ASF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, how undiverse are we talking, at the "coveted 6"?

http://www.apsva.us/cms/lib2/VA01000586/Centricity/Domain/11/civilrights/Civil%20Rights%202014-15.pdf

http://apsva.us//site/Default.aspx?PageID=1113

That's unbelievable. Shameful even.

How is it "shameful?"

That 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education--which was a Supreme Court case based on a Virginia complaint--we still have segregated schools. But now people can say its because they prefer "neighborhood schools" and "schools with good test scores."

I want a neighborhood school with good test scores AND diversity.