s/o Why do people from the north think DC is the south?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

DC is sandwiched between Virginia (absolutely the south) and Maryland, whose state song calls for Maryland to fight against the Union and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant and a despot and which spiritually was part of the confederacy even if not in actuality. Both states are south of the Maxon-Dixon line.

So yes, the south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

DC is sandwiched between Virginia (absolutely the south) and Maryland, whose state song calls for Maryland to fight against the Union and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant and a despot and which spiritually was part of the confederacy even if not in actuality. Both states are south of the Maxon-Dixon line.

So yes, the south.

And yet, it was the capital of the UNION during the Civil War. Imagine that. You're negating the very District itself in deference to the states around it... but that's par for the course.

Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/45368/is-the-district-of-columbia-in-or-part-of-the/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

DC is sandwiched between Virginia (absolutely the south) and Maryland, whose state song calls for Maryland to fight against the Union and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant and a despot and which spiritually was part of the confederacy even if not in actuality. Both states are south of the Maxon-Dixon line.

So yes, the south.

It's 2015. Who cares about a song about Abe Lincoln. Isn't MD one of the bluest and high-tax states in the country? That's Northern.

And NoVa is more connected to DC and even bordering MD counties than any other cities in VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

DC is sandwiched between Virginia (absolutely the south) and Maryland, whose state song calls for Maryland to fight against the Union and refers to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant and a despot and which spiritually was part of the confederacy even if not in actuality. Both states are south of the Maxon-Dixon line.

So yes, the south.

And yet, it was the capital of the UNION during the Civil War. Imagine that. You're negating the very District itself in deference to the states around it... but that's par for the course.

Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/45368/is-the-district-of-columbia-in-or-part-of-the/

The federal part of DC has always been different from the actual city surrounding it.

Alexandria was part of DC until Virginia took it back in 1846. Robert E. Lee's house was just across the river from the White House. The culture in this area has been southern for most of its history. Not the deep south, but southern nonetheless.

Also, Northern cities were built on industry and manufacturing. DC was a cow town until WWII when the military industry built it up. There were never any big manufacturing plants here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

And until the advent of air conditioning, everyone used to leave town in August because of the heat. Nothing happened in August. That would only happen in a southern town.

Also, I've lived here for 25 years and can count on one hand the number of blizzards we've had.

Yep, it's the south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn't Lincoln call it a city of Southern efficiency & Northern charm?

Southern efficiency - Slow as molasses. Y'all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm from upstate NY, and when I moved to DC twenty years ago I never thought I was moving to the "south." The south to me is Dixie... the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. DC to me (even before I moved here) was always the Mid-Atlantic and kind of set apart. But I always see people on DCUM stating that DC is the south. It's not the south, geographically or culturally. And remember, DC was the capital of the Union during the civil war.

Why do you think it's the south, northerners?

And until the advent of air conditioning, everyone used to leave town in August because of the heat. Nothing happened in August. That would only happen in a southern town.

Also, I've lived here for 25 years and can count on one hand the number of blizzards we've had.

Yep, it's the south.

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I was born and raised here, with the exception of some temporary moves elsewhere. If you are native to this area, you've probably been brought up as a southerner. Maybe not "Deep South," but southern nevertheless. Definitely not northern.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in PA and I do think of the DC area as being part of "The South". Not "Deep South", but definitely southern. Certainly not northern! I might even consider most of MD mid-Atlantic, but VA is a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Dc is nothing like the industrial cities in the northeast. Baltimore, Philly, NYC. Much more southern feel.

[Anonymous]

Cape May NJ is also south of the Mason-Dixon Line, for what it's worth.

[Anonymous]

I've truly never known anyone who considered D.C. , "the south". When we are back home, people refer to D.C. as "up north" and ask us how much longer we'll be living in "yankee land". As a southerner, let me clear up the concept of "deep south". I am from the deep south ~ Mississippi. My DH is from the deep south ~ Georgia. Alabama and Louisiana are the deep south. South Carolina is the deep south. NORTH Florida is the deep south. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, and maybe parts of Virginia, Richmond and down (and that is suspect) is just "the south". D.C. and "the south" shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Unless you are from Canada and referring to the entire U.S.

I don't mean that as a slam against D.C. at all. D.C., Northern Virginia, Maryland.... Mid-Atlantic maybe? But not the south. Not geographically, and sure as hell not culturally. I'm sure most of you are happy that we see it that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've truly never known anyone who considered D.C. , "the south". When we are back home, people refer to D.C. as "up north" and ask us how much longer we'll be living in "yankee land". As a southerner, let me clear up the concept of "deep south". I am from the deep south ~ Mississippi. My DH is from the deep south ~ Georgia. Alabama and Louisiana are the deep south. South Carolina is the deep south. NORTH Florida is the deep south. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, and maybe parts of Virginia, Richmond and down (and that is suspect) is just "the south". D.C. and "the south" shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Unless you are from Canada and referring to the entire U.S.

I don't mean that as a slam against D.C. at all. D.C., Northern Virginia, Maryland.... Mid-Atlantic maybe? But not the south. Not geographically, and sure as hell not culturally. I'm sure most of you are happy that we see it that way.

OP here. Right, only Northerners (but not me) consider DC the south. I will always maintain that it is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've truly never known anyone who considered D.C. , "the south". When we are back home, people refer to D.C. as "up north" and ask us how much longer we'll be living in "yankee land". As a southerner, let me clear up the concept of "deep south". I am from the deep south ~ Mississippi. My DH is from the deep south ~ Georgia. Alabama and Louisiana are the deep south. South Carolina is the deep south. NORTH Florida is the deep south. Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, and maybe parts of Virginia, Richmond and down (and that is suspect) is just "the south". D.C. and "the south" shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Unless you are from Canada and referring to the entire U.S.

I don't mean that as a slam against D.C. at all. D.C., Northern Virginia, Maryland.... Mid-Atlantic maybe? But not the south. Not geographically, and sure as hell not culturally. I'm sure most of you are happy that we see it that way.

OP here. Right, only Northerners (but not me) consider DC the south. I will always maintain that it is not.

Even my mom, who is from NYC, does not consider DC the south.

[Anonymous]

It is technically part of the South and historically, that is very important actually. It was part of the compromise to get the constitution ratified - the capital was moved to the south.

Not to mention the geography, slavery, the food products you get here that I'd never heard of coming from California & New York. But, yes I see your point - Washington DC does not, in its contemporary form, really resonate with what people think of as the South. It's also a town with people from all over who've moved here for work, so the culture is a bit of a hodge-podge, not majority southern.

[Anonymous]

DC was culturally southern up until 20 years ago when the metro area started to boom. Now with all the transplants and the development of the burbs, it isn't any longer.