Any Experience with Grinnell?

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the link. I always look to Aljazeera first for the facts about America (aka "The Great Satan")

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard proof is nearly impossible to get, but this is hardly a "wild theory".

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/college-campus-sexualassaultsafetydatawhitehousegender.html

Sexual assault is reprehensible and a problem everywhere. Targeting the schools whose administration or culture isn't suppressing reports of sexual assault as much is just exacerbating the problem.

I'm not saying it's not a problem at Grinnell. It is a problem at Grinnell. But, it's a problem across every college campus everywhere and there simply is no way to know how bad the rape culture is by looking at reported rates of sexual assault.

FWIW the linked article doesn't discuss SLACS at all. No evidence to support the previous suggestion that the high rate of sexual assaults reported at SLACS is due to greater rate of reporting, not rate of assault.

[Anonymous]

Nice ad hominem.

If you bothered to read that, you'd also see that the person who wrote it comes from "The Great Satan".

Jennifer J. Freyd is a research psychologist, a professor of psychology at the University of Oregon and the co-author of "Blind to Betrayal" (Wiley, 2013).

[Anonymous]

Not explicitly, no. But it does note the fact that reported rates of sexual assaults by colleges is far below the estimating of the real results of sexual assaults, then tries to find out why.

The answer is:

The most prevalent explanation for college rape culture is that it comes hand in hand with an alcohol-infused party culture that objectifies and sexualizes women. These elements of campus culture are indeed fundamental to the creation and maintenance of a rape-prone campus. But our research suggests that just as responsible is the institutional cover-up of the violence. When administrators implicitly or explicitly hide sexual assault on their college campuses, they are not simply failing to fix a problem; they are responsible for contributing to it and are thus guilty of promoting it. The institutional cover-up is at the root of a rape-tolerant culture.

Consider Grinnell and neighboring Iowa State. The rate of reported assaults at Grinnell is 26/1670 (1.5%) while the rate of reported assaults at Iowa State is 27/30740 (.09%) (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/investigations/readers-watchdog/2014/04/28/sex-assault-reports-spike-grinnell-college/8363979/)

There's two possible conclusions:

-There are more sexual assaults at Grinnell

-More sexual assaults are reported at Grinnell

When you consider that Iowa State has a heavy partying culture (by the students own admission https://colleges.niche.com/iowa-state-university/party-scene/) and Grinnell has a history of supporting social justice (http://www.grinnell.edu/about/social-justice) I find the second a far more likely conclusion. We simply don't know how much each institution is covering up rapes, but we do know which has more partying and which has a culture that is more likely to encourage woman to report their social injustices.

I'm not saying SLAC's rape reporting results are misleading because I'm one of those people who just puts their hand in their ears and shouts "lalala there's no such thing as rape culture". Rape culture undoubtedly exists. It's undoubtedly a problem. But I don't think it's especially more of a problem at SLACs, I think it's a problem everywhere, and efforts are better focused raising awareness for rape culture at colleges who's rate of reported sexual assaults are absolutely unrealistically low. I mean, .09%? Really?

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure I'd want my son attending a school that has a culture that is more likely to encourage woman to report their "social injustices."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/rape-culture-theory-ensnares-innocent-men/

[Anonymous]

Everyone I have ever met who attended Grinnell (both of them) is an upstanding hardworking honest person with an eye towards leaving the world a little better than they found it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I'd want my son attending a school that has a culture that is more likely to encourage woman to report their "social injustices."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/rape-culture-theory-ensnares-innocent-men/

To quote Chris Kluwe on Twitter:

@ChrisWarcraft

"Wait, if they're fighting for social justice, what are we fighting for?"

"Our right to be an asshole whenever we want!"

"..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I'd want my son attending a school that has a culture that is more likely to encourage woman to report their "social injustices."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/rape-culture-theory-ensnares-innocent-men/

To quote Chris Kluwe on Twitter:

@ChrisWarcraft

"Wait, if they're fighting for social justice, what are we fighting for?"

"Our right to be an asshole whenever we want!"

"..."

I always look to unemployed NFL punters for guidance on any topic Jon Stewart hasn't yet addressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure I'd want my son attending a school that has a culture that is more likely to encourage woman to report their "social injustices."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06/rape-culture-theory-ensnares-innocent-men/

To quote Chris Kluwe on Twitter:

@ChrisWarcraft

"Wait, if they're fighting for social justice, what are we fighting for?"

"Our right to be an asshole whenever we want!"

"..."

I always look to unemployed NFL punters for guidance on any topic Jon Stewart hasn't yet addressed.

But someone who talks about "ensnaring innocent men" is an intellectual giant!

[Anonymous]

Grinnell seems to be very liberal leaning. I get it that most SLACs and major universities are, but is Grinnell so liberal that a moderate kid from a moderate family would have trouble fitting in?

Also, what's the social scene like? It seems very remote, does the campus provide activities - do the kids drink out of boredom?

Sorry for what probably seems like dumb questions, but I've never been to the campus.

[Anonymous]

Grinnell is well-known as a good school among those that matter. Employers have heard of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grinnell is well-known as a good school among those that matter. Employers have heard of it.

Yeah, sure they have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grinnell is well-known as a good school among those that matter. Employers have heard of it.

Yeah, sure they have.

LOL - yes, even as far away as DesMoines

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grinnell is well-known as a good school among those that matter. Employers have heard of it.

Yeah, sure they have.

LOL - yes, even as far away as DesMoines

Are you one of those people who consider anything between the east and west coasts to be dull "flyover" country? And for the record, Grinnell is very well known in NYC and Washington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grinnell is well-known as a good school among those that matter. Employers have heard of it.

Yeah, sure they have.

LOL - yes, even as far away as DesMoines

Are you one of those people who consider anything between the east and west coasts to be dull "flyover" country? And for the record, Grinnell is very well known in NYC and Washington.

I think you might want to dismiss and not engage the 'Des Moines' poster as I believe it might be the Panty Sniffer/UMD poster that the moderator has problems with.