I think the "why can't you criticize a Jew" thread actually made a valid point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.

I really do not see a difference b/t ISIS and Israel. I just do think Israel would force someone to convert to the state religion. Israel expels the people from the country.

Oh my god! You should do some research before you post. Judaism discourages conversion. To the point where it is a multiyear process. Judaism is not a evangelical religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.

I really do not see a difference b/t ISIS and Israel. I just do think Israel would force someone to convert to the state religion. Israel expels the people from the country.

ISIS targets the nonbelievers... Israel targets the militants. there is a huge difference. If you don't see this, I have no explanation other than Antisemitism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.

I really do not see a difference b/t ISIS and Israel. I just do think Israel would force someone to convert to the state religion. Israel expels the people from the country.

ISIS targets the nonbelievers... Israel targets the militants. there is a huge difference. If you don't see this, I have no explanation other than Antisemitism.

But Israel also starves out the innocent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what you mean. Everyone criticized Anthony Weiner for his stupid crotch shots on twitter. Nobody said those critics were anti-Semitic, did they? Because they were criticizing his actions, not what religion he may or may not practice.

If you are linking someone's actions to ethnicity, nationality, sex, or religion, you are right to get pushback.

If you criticize Israeli politics - and US support- you're viewed as an anti-Semite. This very point has been raised again and again on these boards.

Even if you try to ARGUE - which means you're discussing both sides using credible evidence that's balanced - you can't win b/c emotions overshadow reason.

same is true for the threads on Islamic covering
Every time a valid reason is raised, someone quotes from the Quran. Again, emotions win over reason.

We're not criticizing people; we're examining beliefs which MAY box people in.

And sadly, in many cases, there are blurred lines btw religious beliefs and politics.

Being too PC is dangerous, as it assumes we're to accept some poor behaviors from certain groups.

Well, I criticize Israeli policies all the time and don't care what people call me. In my heart I know I'm not anti-Semitic. Just like criticizing American policies doesn't make me hate Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I wished the genocide threat was unlocked. It really needs to be discussed. How many Israelis hold these views and is it gaining traction?


If you look at it, the number of jews advocating genocide is very very small. The number of Israelis is smaller. Number of muslims, somewhat higher (because there are many more muslims than jews)....

Even the people that advocate for ethnic cleansing are not advocating for genocide...there is a difference between expulsion and murder. 9I am not advocating for either).

If you want genocide, look at ISIS, not Israel.

I really do not see a difference b/t ISIS and Israel. I just do think Israel would force someone to convert to the state religion. Israel expels the people from the country.

ISIS targets the nonbelievers... Israel targets the militants. there is a huge difference. If you don't see this, I have no explanation other than Antisemitism.

No - Isreal targets the people that want them to stop stealing their land and water resources.

[Anonymous]

Israel does not want Gaza.

[Anonymous]

The border should be restored to pre 1967. It looks like the Israelis do not want that so the only other workable solution is one state.

[Anonymous]

Israel needs to seperate the state and religion. This is the cause of most of the brutal repression of the Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Israel needs to seperate the state and religion. This is the cause of most of the brutal repression of the Palestinians.

How? when the country was based on rewarding people who faced religious persecution

I can't imagine how - at this point - any leader can separate his/her religious beliefs from law. Lines are so blurred that no one is thinking straight.

too late for this . . .