GoT Final Episode

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Anonymous wrote:I found it too violent, between the attacking skeletons and the fight between Brienne and the Hound, I had my eyes closed a lot (but I'm a chicken). I was a bit sad to see the Hound die. I wish they would do a flashback or something on that guy who gave Ayra the Braavos stone, because I really don't remember what that was all about. There were definitely some twists I did not see coming - those Lannisters are a mess!

Also, why was Stannis the only one to come to the aid of the Wall? I would have thought the "Warden of the North" would be the one responsible for backing up the Night's Watch.

Because Stannis (through the Red Woman or Witch or whatever she is) is the only one that realizes there's something major going on up there. The rest are to wrapped up in their own little worlds to realize it.

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Anonymous wrote:I found it too violent, between the attacking skeletons and the fight between Brienne and the Hound, I had my eyes closed a lot (but I'm a chicken). I was a bit sad to see the Hound die. I wish they would do a flashback or something on that guy who gave Ayra the Braavos stone, because I really don't remember what that was all about. There were definitely some twists I did not see coming - those Lannisters are a mess!

I would like to see this scene again, too. I believe it was given to her by the man who taught her how to fence.

They did flashback to it. It was a guard at the castle with Bolton when Arya and her friends were working there who gave it to her. Last season this guy told Arya to tell him the names of three people she wanted dead at the castle. After each of the names she gave, all of those characters died horrible accidental deaths. I forget why he wanted to help her in the first place. He gave her the coin and told her that if she met someone going to Braavos, to give him the coin and say "Valar Morghulis" and he'd take her that. Which is what Arya did in that last scene.

Right. His face changed from Jaqen H'gar to some rando. When he was Jaqen, he said he was helping her because she saved him and his friends. But then when his face changed, it made me wonder if Jaqen had been dead all along. I was so confused and it has bothered me since I saw it! Does anyone know what happened with that?

I thought it was supposed to be the same person -- she saved his life (he was one of those three guys locked up and then there was an attack, and Arya unlocked their carriage cage thing). He found her when she was a servant to Tywin and said something like since she'd saved three people (him and the two others), the gods demanded three lives in return, and she could pick those people. She picked two, but hadn't decided on a third. I thought he gave her the coin to help her find him so she could collect on the third. But last night, it seemed like the ship owner/captain took it as some sort of indication that she was important or something.

It was the same person, but then his face changed after he gave her the coin? WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:I found it too violent, between the attacking skeletons and the fight between Brienne and the Hound, I had my eyes closed a lot (but I'm a chicken). I was a bit sad to see the Hound die. I wish they would do a flashback or something on that guy who gave Ayra the Braavos stone, because I really don't remember what that was all about. There were definitely some twists I did not see coming - those Lannisters are a mess!

I would like to see this scene again, too. I believe it was given to her by the man who taught her how to fence.

They did flashback to it. It was a guard at the castle with Bolton when Arya and her friends were working there who gave it to her. Last season this guy told Arya to tell him the names of three people she wanted dead at the castle. After each of the names she gave, all of those characters died horrible accidental deaths. I forget why he wanted to help her in the first place. He gave her the coin and told her that if she met someone going to Braavos, to give him the coin and say "Valar Morghulis" and he'd take her that. Which is what Arya did in that last scene.

Right. His face changed from Jaqen H'gar to some rando. When he was Jaqen, he said he was helping her because she saved him and his friends. But then when his face changed, it made me wonder if Jaqen had been dead all along. I was so confused and it has bothered me since I saw it! Does anyone know what happened with that?

I thought it was supposed to be the same person -- she saved his life (he was one of those three guys locked up and then there was an attack, and Arya unlocked their carriage cage thing). He found her when she was a servant to Tywin and said something like since she'd saved three people (him and the two others), the gods demanded three lives in return, and she could pick those people. She picked two, but hadn't decided on a third. I thought he gave her the coin to help her find him so she could collect on the third. But last night, it seemed like the ship owner/captain took it as some sort of indication that she was important or something.

NP here. He's part of an order of assassins known as the Faceless men. They have the ability to change faces/disguise themselves. The coin is of their order, and that is why the ship owner, from the same place as the order, recognized it.

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Right. His face changed from Jaqen H'gar to some rando. When he was Jaqen, he said he was helping her because she saved him and his friends. But then when his face changed, it made me wonder if Jaqen had been dead all along. I was so confused and it has bothered me since I saw it! Does anyone know what happened with that?

I thought it was supposed to be the same person -- she saved his life (he was one of those three guys locked up and then there was an attack, and Arya unlocked their carriage cage thing). He found her when she was a servant to Tywin and said something like since she'd saved three people (him and the two others), the gods demanded three lives in return, and she could pick those people. She picked two, but hadn't decided on a third. I thought he gave her the coin to help her find him so she could collect on the third. But last night, it seemed like the ship owner/captain took it as some sort of indication that she was important or something.

NP here. He's part of an order of assassins known as the Faceless men. They have the ability to change faces/disguise themselves. The coin is of their order, and that is why the ship owner, from the same place as the order, recognized it.

This must have been explained better in the book, because I never heard anything about Faceless men! So was he posing as the younger guy all along?

[Anonymous]

No it was given to her by the guy who killed people for her. The mysterious guy from Braavos.

[Anonymous]

They get more into the Faceless in later seasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I found it too violent, between the attacking skeletons and the fight between Brienne and the Hound, I had my eyes closed a lot (but I'm a chicken). I was a bit sad to see the Hound die. I wish they would do a flashback or something on that guy who gave Ayra the Braavos stone, because I really don't remember what that was all about. There were definitely some twists I did not see coming - those Lannisters are a mess!

I would like to see this scene again, too. I believe it was given to her by the man who taught her how to fence.

They did flashback to it. It was a guard at the castle with Bolton when Arya and her friends were working there who gave it to her. Last season this guy told Arya to tell him the names of three people she wanted dead at the castle. After each of the names she gave, all of those characters died horrible accidental deaths. I forget why he wanted to help her in the first place. He gave her the coin and told her that if she met someone going to Braavos, to give him the coin and say "Valar Morghulis" and he'd take her that. Which is what Arya did in that last scene.

Thank you!! That's right. Not sure why I thought is was the instructor.

Looking forward to reading the books this summer.

i feel like it was the instructor and you guys are mixing up two characters....? or am i?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, google game of thrones map. It will help you a lot. No, you're thinking of Dorne, which is south of Kings Landing and part of the Seven Kingdoms. Bravos is east across the sea and is a separate country, so is Essos. Stanis was able to take a boat north of The Wall and attack the Free Folk that way.

He took a boat--yes, but it is the "true north"--how did he break through the ice? And the intro is so misleading--the picture makes it look the wall is real a massive cliff leading to the South. I know it isn't but such a misleading graphic…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really? I found it quite slow and a bit boring. Totally bummed. Thank goodness True Blood is on next week!!!

True Blood is execrable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I found it too violent, between the attacking skeletons and the fight between Brienne and the Hound, I had my eyes closed a lot (but I'm a chicken). I was a bit sad to see the Hound die. I wish they would do a flashback or something on that guy who gave Ayra the Braavos stone, because I really don't remember what that was all about. There were definitely some twists I did not see coming - those Lannisters are a mess!

Also, why was Stannis the only one to come to the aid of the Wall? I would have thought the "Warden of the North" would be the one responsible for backing up the Night's Watch.

The Stark's of Winterfell were the Wardens of the North and they Killed Ned Stark in Season one. I could barely watch it after that--bit --sigh--I pressed on. The White Walker/Skeletor/Zombies is a plot for 35 year old males living in their mother's basement.

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The book explains all of this much better, and I feel like the show cut much of the explaination (Arya/coin) out. However, you can't really explain more without getting into what will happen next season.

Needless to say, I've been waiting for them to get to Braavos because now is when it really is going to get good with Arya.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, google game of thrones map. It will help you a lot. No, you're thinking of Dorne, which is south of Kings Landing and part of the Seven Kingdoms. Bravos is east across the sea and is a separate country, so is Essos. Stanis was able to take a boat north of The Wall and attack the Free Folk that way.

He took a boat--yes, but it is the "true north"--how did he break through the ice? And the intro is so misleading--the picture makes it look the wall is real a massive cliff leading to the South. I know it isn't but such a misleading graphic…

He doesn't get there so fast, the TV show just made it seem fast. Read the book.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, google game of thrones map. It will help you a lot. No, you're thinking of Dorne, which is south of Kings Landing and part of the Seven Kingdoms. Bravos is east across the sea and is a separate country, so is Essos. Stanis was able to take a boat north of The Wall and attack the Free Folk that way.

He took a boat--yes, but it is the "true north"--how did he break through the ice? And the intro is so misleading--the picture makes it look the wall is real a massive cliff leading to the South. I know it isn't but such a misleading graphic…

Well, if you watch a TV show and expect to get the answers that are included in a 1,000 page book - you probably do have a lot of questions. #readthebook

[Anonymous]

Ok but it's a TV show - so the writers should be answering these questions within the context of the show. They can't do a half ass job of story telling and then assume people will read the book in order to fully understand the narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok but it's a TV show - so the writers should be answering these questions within the context of the show. They can't do a half ass job of story telling and then assume people will read the book in order to fully understand the narrative.

There was that whole scene--added for the show, not in the books--where Stannis and Ser Davos go to the Iron Bank of Braavos and ask for money to buy an army. And then Stannis goes to the baths and finds his friend Sallador Saan who has a (pirate) fleet and gets him to help. That was how Stannis got the soldiers and got them to the north.

They did try and set it all up….you probably just missed it, since that was four episodes ago and not really connected to anything back then.