is it really possible to have PG symptoms BEFORE beta with IVF?

[Anonymous]

713- I know the embryo hasn't implanted and won't for several more days at least. My comments were in regard to 14:43's discussion of early pregnancy factor (epf). I was trying to rationalize (and maybe have a little bit of hope) that that is the reason for my fatigue. It's so bad I can't even make it to the grocery store. I ovulate regularly and this fatigue is new to me in all the months I've been tracking.

[Anonymous]

That's interesting- I hope you're right PP!

does anyone know whether the progesterone symptoms happen the whole 2WW or whether it's cumulative and only start right before beta? I am inclined to think that cramps/sore boobs are just from PIO, but weird if you've been on PIO already for 9 days and the cramps and sore boobs only start then?

[Anonymous]

I was pregnant with twins and had ZERO symptoms before my beta and even well after my beta with the exception of an occasional shooting pain in my breasts that started about 4 or 5 dpt. It could have been the progesterone - who knows. But my first beta at 14dpt was 1600 and even then I didn't have any symptoms. I felt very normal without any other symptoms. It took seeing the HBs at the u/s to truly believe I was pregnant.

I guess I wouldn't read into symptoms during the TWW. Before IVF I had sore boobs, bloating, and even nausea during my TWW and would always have BFNs.