Neonatal circumcision: benefits exceed risks by at least 100 to 1

[Anonymous]

So glad I had girls so I don't have to participate in this debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad I had girls so I don't have to participate in this debate.

Well, you can still have an opinion, but it is one less thing to worry about.

I'm so glad that it was a no brainer for DH and I for all 3 boys we have: no circumcision. No complaints from said sons, either.

[Anonymous]

The authors really could find NO citations for the risks associated with circumcision?

I noticed the first cited benefit was from one of the authors. No conflict there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The authors really could find NO citations for the risks associated with circumcision?

I noticed the first cited benefit was from one of the authors. No conflict there.

Table 4 bottom shows the risks of circumcision

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So glad I had girls so I don't have to participate in this debate.

Well, you can still have an opinion, but it is one less thing to worry about.

I'm so glad that it was a no brainer for DH and I for all 3 boys we have: no circumcision. No complaints from said sons, either.

The complaint will come later when they can speak for themselves.

I am great full parents choose to vaccinate and protect their children from traffic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Ours is. I don't know about other parents but I'd appreciate if you would not look at my sons penis.

Then don't send your son on play dates or to preschool until he can go to the bathroom unassisted. You are weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

So much false information here.

Tonsil stones is caused by the accumulation of dead cells and food int he crypts coffee doesn't cause them.

http://www.wisegeek.org/why-do-we-have-tonsils.htm#didyouknowout

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

So much false information here.

Tonsil stones is caused by the accumulation of dead cells and food int he crypts coffee doesn't cause them.

http://www.wisegeek.org/why-do-we-have-tonsils.htm#didyouknowout

Coffee causes them for me -- I use a french press so there is a lot of "silt" in the coffee which gets caught there. It's gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So glad I had girls so I don't have to participate in this debate.

Well, you can still have an opinion, but it is one less thing to worry about.

I'm so glad that it was a no brainer for DH and I for all 3 boys we have: no circumcision. No complaints from said sons, either.

The complaint will come later when they can speak for themselves.

I am great full parents choose to vaccinate and protect their children from traffic.

What? My boys are 23, 21 and 16. I can promise you they have been verbal and speaking their minds for many, many years.

Your second sentence doesn't really make sense, but I am guessing that you are trying to imply that parents who don't circumcise their children aren't protecting them? If so, you're very wrong. I protected my children by giving them the tools they needed to keep all their body parts clean and in working order, and to engage in safe sex when the time came.

Circumcision is not some magical procedure that protects from all the diseases that those who are uncircumcised are (purportedly) at a higher risk for. Like any decision, you weigh the benefits and risks. In my mind, there are many benefits to not circumcising, and zero risks that aren't present for circumcised individuals as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

I drink a ton of coffee and have never had tonsil stones. I take good care of my teeth. My son is also not circumcised because my DH thinks it is mutilation. There is a way to "reclaim one's foreskin" a colleague of mine presented a paper on the history of circumcision in the USA and current trends. He admitted by the end of his research, he regretted his parents had him circumcised as a baby.

Ultimately, I think it doesn't matter either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

I drink a ton of coffee and have never had tonsil stones. I take good care of my teeth. My son is also not circumcised because my DH thinks it is mutilation. There is a way to "reclaim one's foreskin" a colleague of mine presented a paper on the history of circumcision in the USA and current trends. He admitted by the end of his research, he regretted his parents had him circumcised as a baby.

Ultimately, I think it doesn't matter either way.

What kind of sick place do you work at? intact male american?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just about weighing benefits vs. risks. It's also about looking at the bigger picture: avoiding diseases that your circumcised child could still very easily contract vs. subjecting your child (who is unable to consent or voice an opinion) to unnecessary surgery.

People without foreskins are still at risk to some degree. People with foreskins can choose to cut them off when they become consenting adults. What cannot happen, however, is your child regaining the piece of skin you erroneously had removed from his body, both putting him at an unnecessary risk of infection/surgical complications and removing the most sensitive part of the penis.

I have never been with a guy who wishes their parents didn't have them circumcised. I mean seriously have you ever met a guy who wants to regain his foreskin, I did meet a guy who wished his parents had him circumcised when he was a baby. He said he has had several infections but does not have the money and is too scared to get it done as an adult.

I haven't seen a single boy my DS's age who is circumcised, and we've had our fair share of play dates and I helped out in preschool for years. So my guess is pretty soon circumcised men may indeed wish they weren't.

They used to pertty routinely take out tonsils too. It was a fad.

Well they are now doing it again but at older ages. Tonsils are useless and everyone born around the 80s has to deal with tonsil stones and nasty breath.

Tonsils are not useless. They think they may be used to catch germs on the way down -- which is why they can get infected. It's like removing the screen because too many bugs get on it -- then they just come right in! And they remove them at older ages now because children can grow into their tonsils, so what was a problem with swollen tonsils at a young age (when they used to be routinely removed) can become a non-issue.

Most people do not have tonsil stones. Do you drink coffee? It can cause them.

I drink a ton of coffee and have never had tonsil stones. I take good care of my teeth. My son is also not circumcised because my DH thinks it is mutilation. There is a way to "reclaim one's foreskin" a colleague of mine presented a paper on the history of circumcision in the USA and current trends. He admitted by the end of his research, he regretted his parents had him circumcised as a baby.

Ultimately, I think it doesn't matter either way.

What kind of sick place do you work at? intact male american?

Sick?! Lol! Maybe? I work at a University. My colleague is a historian.

[Anonymous]

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2014/04/new_findings_underscore_circum.html

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2014/04/new_findings_underscore_circum.html