What are "behavior" issues?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:KTS pre-K would also help with that. They also say they don't accept "behavior" issues, but by that they mean acting out physically. They're able to help kids learn emotional regulation.

If your child gets help with this self-regulation, he won't be regarded as a "behavior" issue forever. It should a soluble problem with the right time and help invested in it. My advice would to enroll in a pre-K that helps kids with this, with the aim of getting your child to the point where you don't have to describe them as having a behavior issue when you are going for your later academic destination.

Thank you. You told me exactly what I'm trying to figure out. When schools say they don't accept "behavior" issues do they mean hitting, kicking, biting or do they mean they can't handle my kid screaming and crying like a 2 yr old for 10 min? We've come so far in 6 months. It used to be that he was completely inconsolable for hours. Now, you can ignore him for 10 min, let him settle down a bit, give him a brief hug (adult intervention) and he's back playing with the other children. Now obviously, the goal is for him not to lose control or to be able to walk away from an upsetting situation, but that's going to take time--and perhaps some explicit guidance from a school that knows how to teach emotional regulation.

So far, Kingsbury and KTS have been suggested. Any thoughts on Lourie for this type of help? I was also reading on Maddux's website that they say they help with self regulation issues. Any thoughts on that school for this issue?

Maddux would definitely help with this. It's a very structured program, which helps with many kids' frustration levels. Plus, they have clear behavior expectations (and rewards -- that took time getting used to) that at least my child, who also struggles with emotional regulation, really responded to. They also have an explicit social learning curriculum, but I don't know what they looks like in the pre-k, but it has helped us in the older grades. I can't really explain what they do -- except that it works for us. I suggest that you go take a look at it.

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How much training do they have for parents?

[Anonymous]

My child was a hitter and a pusher got counseled out from 3 preschools by the time he was 4. We placed him into a Child Find school with lots of supports. He is now in K and his teachers cannot believe this kid was ever anything but "a nice boy." Well, except when they read his IEP. ))))

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Anonymous wrote:My child was a hitter and a pusher got counseled out from 3 preschools by the time he was 4. We placed him into a Child Find school with lots of supports. He is now in K and his teachers cannot believe this kid was ever anything but "a nice boy." Well, except when they read his IEP. ))))

What were the key components that helped the healing?

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Seconding the request ! Need some hope!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seconding the request ! Need some hope!

Which request?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child was a hitter and a pusher got counseled out from 3 preschools by the time he was 4. We placed him into a Child Find school with lots of supports. He is now in K and his teachers cannot believe this kid was ever anything but "a nice boy." Well, except when they read his IEP. ))))

What were the key components that helped the healing?

I think this is the request people are hoping will be answered.

[Anonymous]

Indeed. Thanks in advance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child was a hitter and a pusher got counseled out from 3 preschools by the time he was 4. We placed him into a Child Find school with lots of supports. He is now in K and his teachers cannot believe this kid was ever anything but "a nice boy." Well, except when they read his IEP. ))))

What were the key components that helped the healing?

I think this is the request people are hoping will be answered.

9:05?

[Anonymous]

Lourie School could be helpful. But know that the school practices physical restraint to control extreme behavior (the physical acting out). This school is for children with emotional disturbance and behavior issues. Some children seemed to be helped by the restraint, and others get more ticked off by it.

Kennedy Krieger can be helpful also. Another school that uses physical restraint, but not as quickly as Lourie. There is more of a variety of disabilities at KKS.

And behavior issues include the following: hitting, biting, kicking, spitting, throwing furniture and other items, screaming and lengthy crying, profanity, running out of the school building, and threatening to harm self and others.

[Anonymous]

9:05, please come back and tell us the solutions!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lourie School could be helpful. But know that the school practices physical restraint to control extreme behavior (the physical acting out). This school is for children with emotional disturbance and behavior issues. Some children seemed to be helped by the restraint, and others get more ticked off by it.

Kennedy Krieger can be helpful also. Another school that uses physical restraint, but not as quickly as Lourie. There is more of a variety of disabilities at KKS.

And behavior issues include the following: hitting, biting, kicking, spitting, throwing furniture and other items, screaming and lengthy crying, profanity, running out of the school building, and threatening to harm self and others.

Just to add, this is standard practice in all elementary schools that deal with emotional disturbance and behavior problems. Every FCPS ED center has a "safe room".

[Anonymous]

OP here-- I would be interested in hearing how 9:05 got the hitting and biting to stop as well.

About physical restraint in school---- would they restrain my child for having a tantrum? He will lay on the floor and kick but at the floor not necessarily a person. Is the need for physical restraint what separates the need to go to Lourie from other SN or inclusive schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lourie School could be helpful. But know that the school practices physical restraint to control extreme behavior (the physical acting out). This school is for children with emotional disturbance and behavior issues. Some children seemed to be helped by the restraint, and others get more ticked off by it.

Kennedy Krieger can be helpful also. Another school that uses physical restraint, but not as quickly as Lourie. There is more of a variety of disabilities at KKS.

And behavior issues include the following: hitting, biting, kicking, spitting, throwing furniture and other items, screaming and lengthy crying, profanity, running out of the school building, and threatening to harm self and others.

Just to add, this is standard practice in all elementary schools that deal with emotional disturbance and behavior problems. Every FCPS ED center has a "safe room".

Interesting. In PG, there are some schools that have an ED program in a wing of an elementary (or middle or high) school. While there may be (I can't recall) a safe or quiet room for seclusion, the hands-on restraint wasn't a big practice. In fact, children who needed that on a regular basis likely would be considered inappropriate for the public school ED program. In the upper grades, a lot more self-regulation is expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here-- I would be interested in hearing how 9:05 got the hitting and biting to stop as well.

About physical restraint in school---- would they restrain my child for having a tantrum? He will lay on the floor and kick but at the floor not necessarily a person. Is the need for physical restraint what separates the need to go to Lourie from other SN or inclusive schools?

It depends on the jurisdiction and its policies, or if you are referring to a non-public, it depends on the school. Any non-public special ed school that is set up to deal with behavioral issues is going to have a policy (and training) on restraint and seclusion.

But let's take the example of your son laying on the floor and kicking it. If he is told to stop and does not, depending on the school, he can be picked up and "transported" to the quiet room. If he acts out further and they find they cannot transport him, they may choose to immobilize him (basically hold him down until he calms down). They are trained to not do this in a harmful way.