What happens to the science/math A student who is also the english/history B student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sweetie, for someone to answer your question, you'd need to provide a lot more information (e.g., re your school, your courses, your extracurricular activities, etc.). Wait -- don't start posting that info. And don't waste any more time here or on CC. Instead, buckle down and bring up your grades in English and history. You are completely capable of this. Do the reading before class. Take a risk and participate in class discussion. Give yourself enough time to do the best possible work on your writing assignments -- including time to revise your first and second drafts! Stop saying and thinking that English is bullshit.

Do I sound like your mom? That's probably because this is exactly the same advice I gave my STEM kids, and they went on to a top university (where, I will add, they still had to do a lot of writing, even as STEM majors).

Happy holidays and good luck!

You take an awful lot for granted, don't you? Are you and the OP's mother friends? You certainly give a whole lot of advice with very little information from OP who you really know nothing about except for a brief snippet in the post.

And calling the OP 'sweetie' is totally inappropriate. Good thing OP didn't provide personal information fo you. Smart kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sweetie, for someone to answer your question, you'd need to provide a lot more information (e.g., re your school, your courses, your extracurricular activities, etc.). Wait -- don't start posting that info. And don't waste any more time here or on CC. Instead, buckle down and bring up your grades in English and history. You are completely capable of this. Do the reading before class. Take a risk and participate in class discussion. Give yourself enough time to do the best possible work on your writing assignments -- including time to revise your first and second drafts! Stop saying and thinking that English is bullshit.

Do I sound like your mom? That's probably because this is exactly the same advice I gave my STEM kids, and they went on to a top university (where, I will add, they still had to do a lot of writing, even as STEM majors).

Happy holidays and good luck!

Are they easy STEM majors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sweetie, for someone to answer your question, you'd need to provide a lot more information (e.g., re your school, your courses, your extracurricular activities, etc.). Wait -- don't start posting that info. And don't waste any more time here or on CC. Instead, buckle down and bring up your grades in English and history. You are completely capable of this. Do the reading before class. Take a risk and participate in class discussion. Give yourself enough time to do the best possible work on your writing assignments -- including time to revise your first and second drafts! Stop saying and thinking that English is bullshit.

Do I sound like your mom? That's probably because this is exactly the same advice I gave my STEM kids, and they went on to a top university (where, I will add, they still had to do a lot of writing, even as STEM majors).

Happy holidays and good luck!

congrats 15:13! Dumbest post I've read here in a while (that's saying something)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sweetie, for someone to answer your question, you'd need to provide a lot more information (e.g., re your school, your courses, your extracurricular activities, etc.). Wait -- don't start posting that info. And don't waste any more time here or on CC. Instead, buckle down and bring up your grades in English and history. You are completely capable of this. Do the reading before class. Take a risk and participate in class discussion. Give yourself enough time to do the best possible work on your writing assignments -- including time to revise your first and second drafts! Stop saying and thinking that English is bullshit.

Do I sound like your mom? That's probably because this is exactly the same advice I gave my STEM kids, and they went on to a top university (where, I will add, they still had to do a lot of writing, even as STEM majors).

Happy holidays and good luck!

You take an awful lot for granted, don't you? Are you and the OP's mother friends? You certainly give a whole lot of advice with very little information from OP who you really know nothing about except for a brief snippet in the post.

And calling the OP 'sweetie' is totally inappropriate. Good thing OP didn't provide personal information fo you. Smart kid.

+100 There is nothing more condescending or patronizing than referring to someone as "sweetie," even here on an anonymous forum. Of course, the intent was probably to condescend and patronize, so good effort. I wonder if it's the same person who constantly refers to people as sweetie all over DCUM when she's trying to sound somehow superior. Doesn't work; just comes off as smug.

[Anonymous]

I'm the "sweetie" PP. I want to assure everyone that my intention was not to patronize or condescend, and I'm sorry that others interpreted my post in that vein, rather than as a gentle prod to the OP to get his/her butt in gear. Many STEM kids feel that English is too subjective and a waste of time, but the lop-sided applicant who wants to go to a top school faces daunting odds. Unless OP is a Westinghouse winnter, s/he needs to bring up those B's in English and history. (Yes -- even if OP is at a rigorous private, TJ or Blair magnet, is a double legacy, URM or recruited athlete). Again, this is exactly the same advice I offered my own kids, who were smart enough to take it and are now at a highly-ranked university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the "sweetie" PP. I want to assure everyone that my intention was not to patronize or condescend, and I'm sorry that others interpreted my post in that vein, rather than as a gentle prod to the OP to get his/her butt in gear. Many STEM kids feel that English is too subjective and a waste of time, but the lop-sided applicant who wants to go to a top school faces daunting odds. Unless OP is a Westinghouse winnter, s/he needs to bring up those B's in English and history. (Yes -- even if OP is at a rigorous private, TJ or Blair magnet, is a double legacy, URM or recruited athlete). Again, this is exactly the same advice I offered my own kids, who were smart enough to take it and are now at a highly-ranked university.

In your veiled attempt to convince people your intention was not condescending, you continue to do just that. Your so called gentle prod was anything but. You used profanity in your post, and took the opportunity to espouse how your kids are at a top college because of your sanctimonious advice.

While you are entitled to your opinion, your advice may be sufficient for your own kids, I would encourage OP to be cautious of self-serving advice in the guise of a chance to extoll the virtues of their own kids.

[Anonymous]

I was the first poster to respond (the "you need a 3.9 GPA" poster). The "Sweetie PP" is unfortunately correct, even if her style is up for debate. It's true that applicants to the most selective schools need As across the board, even in their less strong subjects. This is true for English majors taking that calc class just as much as it's true for STEM majors taking English classes. Because I don't want to be accused of bragging too, I explain exactly how I know this to be true, but it's the unfortunate truth and OP ignores it at his/her own peril.

[Anonymous]

^^^I WON'T explain....

[Anonymous]

While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Having a bad morning?

You're reading way too much into the posts here and then you're offering OP unrealistic pablum. ("Apply anywhere you want!") Your advice is just as patronizing as the "sweetie" PP's (not me) advice, and it's much, much more dangerous. You're advising OP to apply to possibly unrealistic super-select schools, and at the same time you're playing down the absolute necessity of getting his/her english and history grades up, if OP wants to get into these super-select schools. Simply awful advice.

Also, it's "egregious". And more, but I don't have the energy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Hi, I came back after watching this debate from afar and need to step in. I appreciate your support as I was feeling a bit apprehensive about myself and achievements after reading some of these comments. Thank you for not assuming I was dumb and unmotivated. My parent has always encouraged me to work harder on the B+. By the way, even though we don't have a great deal of money, my mom does not curse at me. I think all of my courses are important, not just the ones I like. You folks need to know that at least.

I know how hard it is to get into top schools and what it takes. I thank the folks who are so supportive. Again, I was feeling dejected regardless of my awards and accomplishments. I am good in math and science and no one can say anything to lessen that. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for the support. You don't know how much this means to me. Although I might not be the most prolific writer. I think I have made my point. DCUM is not for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Hi, I came back after watching this debate from afar and need to step in. I appreciate your support as I was feeling a bit apprehensive about myself and achievements after reading some of these comments. Thank you for not assuming I was dumb and unmotivated. My parent has always encouraged me to work harder on the B+. By the way, even though we don't have a great deal of money, my mom does not curse at me. I think all of my courses are important, not just the ones I like. You folks need to know that at least.

I know how hard it is to get into top schools and what it takes. I thank the folks who are so supportive. Again, I was feeling dejected regardless of my awards and accomplishments. I am good in math and science and no one can say anything to lessen that. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for the support. You don't know how much this means to me. Although I might not be the most prolific writer. I think I have made my point. DCUM is not for me.

I wish you all the best! Your mom should be proud of you. And you express yourself poignantly!! Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Having a bad morning?

You're reading way too much into the posts here and then you're offering OP unrealistic pablum. ("Apply anywhere you want!") Your advice is just as patronizing as the "sweetie" PP's (not me) advice, and it's much, much more dangerous. You're advising OP to apply to possibly unrealistic super-select schools, and at the same time you're playing down the absolute necessity of getting his/her english and history grades up, if OP wants to get into these super-select schools. Simply awful advice.

Also, it's "egregious". And more, but I don't have the energy.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Hi, I came back after watching this debate from afar and need to step in. I appreciate your support as I was feeling a bit apprehensive about myself and achievements after reading some of these comments. Thank you for not assuming I was dumb and unmotivated. My parent has always encouraged me to work harder on the B+. By the way, even though we don't have a great deal of money, my mom does not curse at me. I think all of my courses are important, not just the ones I like. You folks need to know that at least.

I know how hard it is to get into top schools and what it takes. I thank the folks who are so supportive. Again, I was feeling dejected regardless of my awards and accomplishments. I am good in math and science and no one can say anything to lessen that. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for the support. You don't know how much this means to me. Although I might not be the most prolific writer. I think I have made my point. DCUM is not for me.

I wish you all the best! Your mom should be proud of you. And you express yourself poignantly!! Good luck!

+1. Hopefully, he won't be back. I would hate to see how he will be vilified for his heartfelt response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While your information may have some validity, the approach stinks. Realistic encouragement is expected but to consistently downplay this child is aggregious. This child does not appear unintelligent and does NOT deserve the mental beat down he is getting.

Approach is everything. OP ignores your advice at his own peril. OP says and thinks English is bullshit. OP wastes his time on DCUM and CC. OP does not appear to be as conscientious as posters kids who got into top schools but we don't want to be accused of bragging by mentioning it.

If I were OP, I would stay as far from DCUM as possible and go directly to college admissions offices and college counselors for advice. S[he] deserves more support and unbiased advice than found here.

OP, you are not in peril nor will you be relegated to a matchbook college. There is some positive advice here but use it discriminately. The smart kid reaches out (like you did) for information. You WILL be successful and you WILL find your niche wherever you accepted. Please DO NOT let people discourage you from applying where you want. Do your best to make your dreams come true.

Hi, I came back after watching this debate from afar and need to step in. I appreciate your support as I was feeling a bit apprehensive about myself and achievements after reading some of these comments. Thank you for not assuming I was dumb and unmotivated. My parent has always encouraged me to work harder on the B+. By the way, even though we don't have a great deal of money, my mom does not curse at me. I think all of my courses are important, not just the ones I like. You folks need to know that at least.

I know how hard it is to get into top schools and what it takes. I thank the folks who are so supportive. Again, I was feeling dejected regardless of my awards and accomplishments. I am good in math and science and no one can say anything to lessen that. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for the support. You don't know how much this means to me. Although I might not be the most prolific writer. I think I have made my point. DCUM is not for me.

I wish you all the best! Your mom should be proud of you. And you express yourself poignantly!! Good luck!

+1. Hopefully, he won't be back. I would hate to see how he will be vilified for his heartfelt response.

Oh please, stop it. Personally, I'd hate for him to take your advice to apply to HYP without any encouragement to work on his english and history grades.