when will Vienna get some new development? tear down some of the hideous 70s strip malls

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Anonymous wrote:Vienna is far outside the beltway

ok, thanks for the contribution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is not drive for that to happen.

You need some type of game changer like a new metro like to prompt outside investment.

The metro already is in Vienna....They actually call one particular line "the Orange Line train to Vienna"...

So the metro makes multiple stops down maple ave? Can you walk from maple ave to the vienna metro?

From the middle of the town of vienna is takes 45 minutes + to walk to the metro
http://goo.gl/maps/iaRXb

Ironically the Vienna Metro is actually in Oakton
Saintsbury Dr, Oakton, VA

In Merrifield or Mosaic is takes 11 minutes to walk to the metro and the housing is a 5 to 8 minute walk to metro.
http://goo.gl/maps/VGKOC

Tysons is creating a many stops with in short walking distances to area.

The pitfall of the town of Vienna is that it is disconnected from the metro and requires you to drive to everything.

Yeah, Vienna is really in desperate straits right now.

[Anonymous]

It is connected to the rest of the world via 66

[Anonymous]

If nothing else, if it were developed with two story open-air retail over parking garages, that would be a huge improvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is connected to the rest of the world via 66

Really?
I live in Vienna and I manage to visit most any place in the area without putting one wheel on 66.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vienna is far outside the beltway

This is hilarious. Do you own a map? Ever look on Google Maps? Mapquest?

It's 1 exit from the beltway via Nutley/66.

The Wolftrap side is about 3 miles from the beltway via toll road.

[Anonymous]

Welcome Agenda 21. Oy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome Agenda 21. Oy.

???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:right, but people who live in the future Vienna are not taking metro regardless. not being on metro doesn't mean the real estate is not insanely valuable, and could be better used in mixed use with apartments/condos over retail over a parking garage. if metro WAS critical, which I doubt it is (i.e., I don't want office towers where people commute TO Vienna via metro), then a bus up and down Maple/Nutley from the existing stop on the Orange Line to the new stop on the Silver Line would be easy enough.

A bus line is no substitute for rails. The reason is very simple: developers want to know that the public transportation connection is permanent -- not subject to cancellation at any time. This is why metro stops are so coveted, and like the previous PP said, the reason that Tyson's has multiple stops planned (they should have put those underground, and not between 4 lane highways, but that's a story for another time).

[Anonymous]

McGruder is sold to Kroger.

Kroger bought Harris Teeter. Did they buy Magruders too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: This is why metro stops are so coveted, and like the previous PP said, the reason that Tyson's has multiple stops planned (they should have put those underground, and not between 4 lane highways, but that's a story for another time).

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:right, but people who live in the future Vienna are not taking metro regardless. not being on metro doesn't mean the real estate is not insanely valuable, and could be better used in mixed use with apartments/condos over retail over a parking garage. if metro WAS critical, which I doubt it is (i.e., I don't want office towers where people commute TO Vienna via metro), then a bus up and down Maple/Nutley from the existing stop on the Orange Line to the new stop on the Silver Line would be easy enough.

A bus line is no substitute for rails. The reason is very simple: developers want to know that the public transportation connection is permanent -- not subject to cancellation at any time. This is why metro stops are so coveted, and like the previous PP said, the reason that Tyson's has multiple stops planned (they should have put those underground, and not between 4 lane highways, but that's a story for another time).

you don't need metro stops to re-develop. You need customers for retail, so leases will be signed and banks will loan the money. Even with the traffic clusterfuck, a mixed use project on Maple would be a slam-dunk. The apartments would rent (or condos sold) and the retail would lease-out. The underground parking would be key.

[Anonymous]

Underground parking is WAY too expense on Maple Avenue for the current and near term market. Above ground structured parking might make the numbers work, but would likely only be allowed if wrapped by retail/mixed-use.

[Anonymous]

then a bus up and down Maple/Nutley from the existing stop on the Orange Line to the new stop on the Silver Line would be easy enough.

See Fairfax Connector's service expansion for the Silver Line start up... http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/connector/routes/silverline/merrifieldvienna.htm

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What is the motivation for Vienna as a town to undergo a redevelopment project? There is no lack of businesses, and homeowners are willing to spend (IMHO) more than the crappy houses would be worth most other places.

Unlike Merrifield which was slowly becoming a ghost town of abandoned warehouses. Ok, that is a bit of an exaggeration. However you get my point. Merrifield needed to do something to raise the tax base (residential and commercial) in that part of town. Vienna doesn't have that problem.