If your child made it into AAP without appealing...

[Anonymous]

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I can't really say because I haven't a clue how/when all the other kids were placed in AAP.

All I know is that my kid has an outstanding group of classmates this year in terms of how similar and fast they all learn.

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[Anonymous]

My kids were in the pool, and got into AAP without me doing anything. I have no idea about other kids, and I don't think about it. My kids are doing fine.

[Anonymous]

Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

I used to say it was watered down by many kids who seemed boorderline at best, but that was at the ES center. Now in Middle School, my views have changed. Having gone to watch class on parents day recently I found many/most of the students to be very sharp and quite impressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

I used to say it was watered down by many kids who seemed boorderline at best, but that was at the ES center. Now in Middle School, my views have changed. Having gone to watch class on parents day recently I found many/most of the students to be very sharp and quite impressive.

Our elementary center has had 2-3 classes/grade during the time we have been there.

It could be my mistaken impression, but it seems that in the final year (6th) the classes themselves are divided more by ability. One class in particular has the kids who over the years have seemed more advanced, like the advanced math group, and also the ones that the kids have always referred to as really smart or the smartest in the class.. I wonder if this is by design or coincidence, and if it is by design does is have anything to do with prepping or transitioning into junior high?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

seriously, if your child is as smart as you say, he/she will excel no matter what. Also, if the program was reserved for the profoundly gifted in all areas, there would be about 5 kids in the entire county per grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

seriously, if your child is as smart as you say, he/she will excel no matter what. Also, if the program was reserved for the profoundly gifted in all areas, there would be about 5 kids in the entire county per grade.

That would be just fine with me and lots of other parents. Then we could do away with the whole center model and simply serve these students in their home schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

seriously, if your child is as smart as you say, he/she will excel no matter what. Also, if the program was reserved for the profoundly gifted in all areas, there would be about 5 kids in the entire county per grade.

That would be just fine with me and lots of other parents. Then we could do away with the whole center model and simply serve these students in their home schools.

I think there will still be some centers in the county but many of the centers in Cluster 1 will revert back to Local Level IV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

You've answered OP's question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the OP. Then who are these parents who are complaining AAP is so watered down because too many kids get in if everyone responding here is happy?

After reading AAP stuff on DCUM for a long time, I suspect the "it's watered down" parents are sometimes--maybe most of the time--not AAP parents at all. The people who make the "watered down" argument often tend to link it to the idea that AAP should be either eliminated entirely or cut back to a tiny percentage of truly genius kids, rather than serving kids who are "merely" academically advanced and have strong aptitude for learning. For whatever reason, there are some parents without kids in AAP who resent the whole program and militate to have it ended or reduced; they often seem to post that AAP takes away resources from general ed and therefore hurts their general ed kids; or is accepting too many kids; is not for the truly "advanced"; isn't different enough from general ed, or is too different and asks too much of kids....

Interesting. I find that the parents of children who would never have qualified for AAP in years past are the ones who are so defensive about even the suggestion that AAP has become too big. They are the parents who know their kid wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of qualifying if the standards were raised and who desperately want to keep the broad net so that their only slightly above-average child will make it in. Those of us who have suggested that AAP is out of control are those who have children who would absolutely get in, regardless of how high the standards were raised. Our kids are, in effect, the ones who are losing out as AAP has become watered down to teach a majority of average kids.

seriously, if your child is as smart as you say, he/she will excel no matter what. Also, if the program was reserved for the profoundly gifted in all areas, there would be about 5 kids in the entire county per grade.

That would be just fine with me and lots of other parents. Then we could do away with the whole center model and simply serve these students in their home schools.

I think there will still be some centers in the county but many of the centers in Cluster 1 will revert back to Local Level IV.

I hope you are right. Where did you hear this information?

[Anonymous]

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I think there will still be some centers in the county but many of the centers in Cluster 1 will revert back to Local Level IV.

I hope you are right. Where did you hear this information?

I have heard mention of this as an idea in School Board work sessions this summer as well as in the listening sessions this fall. As far as I know, there has no been definitive (written) proposal for such an approach.