CA Proposition 8 Passes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's fair to call this vote a "majority whim." The man-woman-marriage thing is a very deeply held belief by a lot of people. It's not a whim that will change next week.....

I did not mean that this is a whim for any individual. But the percentage that support a proposition varies so much that it is a whim of fate which side has the majority.

BTW, nobody has ever suggested that someone who believes in man-woman marriage should engage in anything else. But, to me, this proposition amounts to forcing others to follow the majority's religious beliefs. Perhaps someday the Supreme Court will have the courage to admit that this is a case of state-established religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's fair to call this vote a "majority whim." The man-woman-marriage thing is a very deeply held belief by a lot of people. It's not a whim that will change next week.....

Until the late 1960s (1967 in Nevada), interracial marriages were also not legal/not recognized in the US. Those marriages were between a man and a woman, but hey, I guess it's a matter of how one interprets one's religious reference book on what is acceptable or palatable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heard on NPR this morning that there was a huge minority turnout in CA this year and that perhaps that is why Prop 8 was not passed. They said that most hispanics and African Americans were against Gay Marriage.

This is just what I heard, Don't kill the messenger. or sue me.

Actually, this doesn't surprise me. As an African-American lesbian w/a partner of 7 years, & baby boy, also raised in a Baptist Church, I have found that the Black Baptist Church can be one of the most judgemental group of people (NOT ALL-so don't jump all over me). BUT, I really find it ironic that as African Americans, we have fought so that we are judged by the content of our character, & NOT by the color of our skin. Yet, are first to persecute us, & deny us fundamental rights (Gay Americans) for being who we are.

True, the African American community is generally socially conservative.

[Anonymous]

I am trying to take heart in the fact that the vote was so close. I am very disappointed that it passed but am trying to see it as some sort of progress that it didn't pass by a landslide.

And it just reminds me that we still have a lot of work to do. I was very happy that Obama won but he still is going to promote policies with which I disagree. He doesn't get a free pass from me on these things. We need to organize against him on this just as much as we would have organized against McCain.