Since there are so many lawyers on this piece :)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP just because you think you will learn the industry quickly doen't mean anyone will hire you. Have you ever been in marketing for a professional services firm?

Yes. Insurance.

Didn't last long as I mainly focused on ways to get seniors to call in for information that we were in fact never going to provide them with.

[Anonymous]

Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i think people typically look for experience in the industry not because someone else cannot learn the industry, but because it is just easier to hire someone that they know has done that type of work before. or someone who knows what they are getting into and the expectations/culture (which yes differs from company to company within an industry, but in general the structure of the position and authority should be similar).

anyway OP i know you were looking for advice but it looks like you have pissed off the lawyers and consultants so you probably will not get much of it anymore

That is ok people are all in a hissy...for what...my confidence...I believe any reasonably intelligent person, who was a marketer, could learn my job...What is hard to find is someone who will think outside of the box, do anything that it takes to grow the business and someone who is reliable and double checks their work. Most people are lazy.

Well I know that those positions pay well. I just wouldn't know how low on the pole I would have to start.

[Anonymous]

I can't imagine a law firm hiring an in-house marketer with no experience marketing law firms. Not in the current employment market for law firms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

I am not writing a formal letter to the President.

Geesh!

I am in a chat room. Is there no place that we can be informal on this site? Uptight is your word for the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

I am not writing a formal letter to the President.

Geesh!

I am in a chat room. Is there no place that we can be informal on this site? Uptight is your word for the day.

Fact #1. Law firms are full of people who write for a living. Thus, people who can't write or edit do not get jobs in law firms. This includes marketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

I am not writing a formal letter to the President.

Geesh!

I am in a chat room. Is there no place that we can be informal on this site? Uptight is your word for the day.

Oh honey. This isn't a chat room. You're so lost, aren't you? You are making me think you are the marketing equivalent of those kids who audition for American Idol who are completely off key, can't carry a tune, and don't have all the words to their song memorized, but angrily yell at the judges that they'll be famous and the judges are nothing, all because their mom told them they are beautiful singers.

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I wonder if Morrison and Foerster is uptight? They did name their website http://mofo.com/. I remember when I first heard of them...I loved it, but I thought it was a crazy move in DC which is such a conservative city...even the libs are conservative. So was it a crazy move? Are they in slums of the law firm world?

[Anonymous]

OP the reason people are so annoyed by you is that you basically said that the law is the same as everything else then you asked lawyers for help. Nobody wants to hear that their profession is the same old thing and they can pick up what they need to know in 2 days. How are you in marketing and not know this? You need to work on your diplomacy skills, pronto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

I am not writing a formal letter to the President.

Geesh!

I am in a chat room. Is there no place that we can be informal on this site? Uptight is your word for the day.

Oh honey. This isn't a chat room. You're so lost, aren't you? You are making me think you are the marketing equivalent of those kids who audition for American Idol who are completely off key, can't carry a tune, and don't have all the words to their song memorized, but angrily yell at the judges that they'll be famous and the judges are nothing, all because their mom told them they are beautiful singers.

I am sorry...This isn't a chat room? What is it then? A forum of probably over paid people who are generally lazy and incompetent since they are on a chat room in the middle of the day! 5pm is sort of the middle of day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP the reason people are so annoyed by you is that you basically said that the law is the same as everything else then you asked lawyers for help. Nobody wants to hear that their profession is the same old thing and they can pick up what they need to know in 2 days. How are you in marketing and not know this? You need to work on your diplomacy skills, pronto.

Point taken, but...eh! I am not a lawyer. I don't want to be a lawyer. I didn't say I could be a lawyer in two days. I said I could learn how to get them more clients in two days. You don't need to know the industry - you need to know marketing. Just because you know your industry doesn't mean you know anything about marketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a test pattern for you, as requested. Sentence. Punctuation. Capitalized word at the start of the next sentence. Let's see if you can follow it for the rest of the discussion.

I am not writing a formal letter to the President.

Geesh!

I am in a chat room. Is there no place that we can be informal on this site? Uptight is your word for the day.

Oh honey. This isn't a chat room. You're so lost, aren't you? You are making me think you are the marketing equivalent of those kids who audition for American Idol who are completely off key, can't carry a tune, and don't have all the words to their song memorized, but angrily yell at the judges that they'll be famous and the judges are nothing, all because their mom told them they are beautiful singers.

I am sorry...This isn't a chat room? What is it then? A forum of probably over paid people who are generally lazy and incompetent since they are on a chat room in the middle of the day! 5pm is sort of the middle of day!

You're here too. Doesn't that make you lazy and incompetent as well?

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This was fun. I learned absolutely nothing. Who wants to grab a drink and argue some more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP the reason people are so annoyed by you is that you basically said that the law is the same as everything else then you asked lawyers for help. Nobody wants to hear that their profession is the same old thing and they can pick up what they need to know in 2 days. How are you in marketing and not know this? You need to work on your diplomacy skills, pronto.

Point taken, but...eh! I am not a lawyer. I don't want to be a lawyer. I didn't say I could be a lawyer in two days. I said I could learn how to get them more clients in two days. You don't need to know the industry - you need to know marketing. Just because you know your industry doesn't mean you know anything about marketing.

Let me take that back...you do need to know the industry...that is important, but it doesn't take years or even months. It takes a week...two tops.

[Anonymous]

OP - Law firms are loaded with smug ass holes. You'll fit right in.