Which of the "top 3" or "top 5" private schools has the best track record at the Ivies?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is that obviously BS? If you stoop so low as to include Stanford, Duke and MIT types of colleges 1/3 isn't uncommon in top schools.

The childish writing style screamed "14-year-old in the cafeteria playing a prank." Whatever the truth is, that particular poster didn't possess any actual facts.

The 25% St. Albans-to-Ivies figure is correct from what I am told. You also must not have read a lot of writing from 14-year-olds if you think that post was written by a teenager.

Well, since I own my very own 14-year-old DS, I'll have to disagree with you about the reliability of my BS meter. Sorry to insult your writing, if you're not actually 14.

I'm not questioning the St. Albans figure because they publish it. We were talking about Sidwell.

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Anonymous wrote:My colleague told me that Georgetown Day School consistently beats its rivals in Ivy League admissions. Is this correct?

Wayulllllll . . . I'll bite.

Nope. They have 125 kids in a graduating class and percentage wise they don't beat STA or Sidwell. (STA had 25% go Ivy this year in an average year; GDS does not send 30 students to the Ivies.)

If you look at the NMSF semifinalists, GDS has had some excellent years but generally finishes behind St. Albans and Sidwell when it comes to percentages as well.

GDS has an excellent record of college admissions, better every year, but no need to overreach.

We actually don't have much of a clue about Sidwell, which doesn't publish stats. I've heard very different things from different Sidwell families. Trolls will come on DCUM to say 1/3 of the class is going to ivies next year, but that's obviously BS.

I would not assume 1/3 of the class at Sidwell going to Ivies/MIT/Stanford is necessarily BS. Last year St. Albans had over 30% of their class (23 out of 76) going Ivy/Stanford, from a class with 11 National Merit Semifinalists (http://www.stalbansschool.org/page.aspx?pid=2307) This year's NMSF totals for Sidwell were very good, with 17 Semifinalists (almost double the total for GDS, for example -- see link http://georgetown.patch.com/articles/area-schools-students-national-merit-semifinalists). If you throw in some legacies, and some other kids with hooks, 30+ kids at Ivies is actually believable.

This 12:40 post made sense to me as being logically argued, as did the 13:04 post following it. There's no way of knowing the truth (and I certainly don't care enough about it to ask a Sidwell parent) but the poster does not assert inside knowledge, just makes an argument as to why a blanket dismissal of the idea that 30+ percent of the Sidwell graduating class is going Ivy is not warranted.

(And, for what it's worth, on the side argument, add me to the "no way was that 20:57 post written by a kid" camp. Usages such as "I'll bite" sound middle-aged to me, a middle aged person, and the only people I know who say things like "no need to overreach" are lawyers -- middle-aged ones. But, as they say, YMMV)

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(And, for what it's worth, on the side argument, add me to the "no way was that 20:57 post written by a kid" camp. Usages such as "I'll bite" sound middle-aged to me, a middle aged person, and the only people I know who say things like "no need to overreach" are lawyers -- middle-aged ones. But, as they say, YMMV)

On the very narrow point about the 30% Sidwell figure - that referred to a different thread, not this one. The OP of that thread had no other purpose than to brag about exmissions. And wrote in a childish manner.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems so - but if you exclude Penn, then I think STA leads the pack. Talking only about DC schools here.

I don't understand the reference to Penn. Why would it be excluded?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems so - but if you exclude Penn, then I think STA leads the pack. Talking only about DC schools here.

I don't understand the reference to Penn. Why would it be excluded?

No clue. Athletic recruits? Penn has a special relationship with one of the other area privates?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems so - but if you exclude Penn, then I think STA leads the pack. Talking only about DC schools here.

I don't understand the reference to Penn. Why would it be excluded?

Odd reference. And STA sends a fair amount of kids to Penn as well -- it might be the third-most-common Ivy destination for STA students after Harvard/Yale.

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Some DCUM posters believe Penn and Cornell are "bottom tier Ivies" - so they would exclude them from Ivy admissions worth bragging about (which goes to show how ridiculous some of these posters are).

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Anonymous wrote:Some DCUM posters believe Penn and Cornell are "bottom tier Ivies" - so they would exclude them from Ivy admissions worth bragging about (which goes to show how ridiculous some of these posters are).

Quite goofy. If you have some sort of term which is externally defined -- Ivy League Schools, of which there are eight -- it is bizarre to then try to redefine the externally defined term. It's like saying, "let's count how many Notre Dame football players are drafted by the NFL, but we'll exclude anyone going to the Kansas City Chiefs because that is a lower tier NFL team."

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Anonymous wrote:Some DCUM posters believe Penn and Cornell are "bottom tier Ivies" - so they would exclude them from Ivy admissions worth bragging about (which goes to show how ridiculous some of these posters are).

Isn't Penn # 4 in the country (after HYP?) it was a few years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Some DCUM posters believe Penn and Cornell are "bottom tier Ivies" - so they would exclude them from Ivy admissions worth bragging about (which goes to show how ridiculous some of these posters are).

Isn't Penn # 4 in the country (after HYP?) it was a few years ago.

Sweet! Let's hijack the thread and make it about college rankings now.

I'd put Harvard, Yale, MIT, and Stanford in any top 5 -- I guess Princeton too, or University of Chicago? Penn is one of the great universities of this country, and thus, given the superiority of American university system, the world, but I would peg it as a top 10 school rather than top 5. Duke would be up there too, I guess, although its "Southern culture" bit is a little anti-intellectual.

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Jesus. Can all of you with the freaking obsession re: Ivy League and who goes to the top school (high school, really?) just shut up already?Women, those of you with the obsession, what the hell do you do for a living? What have you accomplished since graduating from your top private prep or Ivy league school? Married a successful man? Had kids, that you can perpetuate the madness ? It is so obvious that the majority of theese ridiculous postings are from SAHM with nothing better to do than obsess and try to live vicariously through their children. Get a life already. As a woman, I'm seriously embarassed. Enough already, please just shut up!

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus. Can all of you with the freaking obsession re: Ivy League and who goes to the top school (high school, really?) just shut up already?Women, those of you with the obsession, what the hell do you do for a living? What have you accomplished since graduating from your top private prep or Ivy league school? Married a successful man? Had kids, that you can perpetuate the madness ? It is so obvious that the majority of theese ridiculous postings are from SAHM with nothing better to do than obsess and try to live vicariously through their children. Get a life already. As a woman, I'm seriously embarassed. Enough already, please just shut up!

Ha! You tell 'em, girl!,

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Actually, there is nothing that makes it obvious that such postings are from SAHMs. Or even from women. If you ask me, such postings are just as likely to come from crazed dads as anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus. Can all of you with the freaking obsession re: Ivy League and who goes to the top school (high school, really?) just shut up already?Women, those of you with the obsession, what the hell do you do for a living? What have you accomplished since graduating from your top private prep or Ivy league school? Married a successful man? Had kids, that you can perpetuate the madness ? It is so obvious that the majority of theese ridiculous postings are from SAHM with nothing better to do than obsess and try to live vicariously through their children. Get a life already. As a woman, I'm seriously embarassed. Enough already, please just shut up!

Why ya readin', there, Petunia? Just untwist the knickers and skip these sorts of threads in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus. Can all of you with the freaking obsession re: Ivy League and who goes to the top school (high school, really?) just shut up already?Women, those of you with the obsession, what the hell do you do for a living? What have you accomplished since graduating from your top private prep or Ivy league school? Married a successful man? Had kids, that you can perpetuate the madness ? It is so obvious that the majority of theese ridiculous postings are from SAHM with nothing better to do than obsess and try to live vicariously through their children. Get a life already. As a woman, I'm seriously embarassed. Enough already, please just shut up!

Why ya readin', there, Petunia? Just untwist the knickers and skip these sorts of threads in the future.

Magnolia, she can read and say whatever she wants.