Frontline doc about Rhee and cheating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:phenomenally poor results before and after Rhee

I really don't understand all the Rhee-bashing. The books made it to the classrooms for the first time in recent history, the pace of renovations increased dramatically,

Actually, the major renovations began before she arrived, and Allen Lew is the person usually credited with their success.

special ed accommodation was improved, the number of families willing to stay in the district once their kids reached school age grew, charters seeking better results for students began to be encouraged not thwarted.

Rhee's responsibility was DCPS, period. The organization overseeing both charters and DCPS is OSSE. Rhee's job was in fact to promote DCPS instead of charters (not that I'm saying she did that great a job of it). And if you want to judge her by the company she keeps, remember that her patron Fenty flagrantly violated laws requiring that charters get right of first refusal for excessed DCPS buildings. (That's probably why the very limited polling data we have shows charter parents overwhelmingly voting for Gray over Fenty.)

Her attitude/personality seems to be the thing that burns people, rather than actual results. Tell me why you disagree.

I disagree with specific points you've made, but I'm genuinely glad to see someone sticking up for Rhee on this board. What other successes of hers can you point to? And do you think she made any permanent improvements, or has everything in DCPS backslid since her departure?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She helped cover up cheating and actually rewarded handsomely the perpetrators because it helped her agenda. No matter what else she did, these facts stand out as her legacy to me.

Have a citation for that "handsome rewarding of the perpetrators"?

[Anonymous]

From what I saw, most of they key parts of Rhee's agenda were never even given a chance to get rolling - it was mired in obstructionism, and she was driven out.

We will never really know if her plan was good or bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She helped cover up cheating and actually rewarded handsomely the perpetrators because it helped her agenda. No matter what else she did, these facts stand out as her legacy to me.

Have a citation for that "handsome rewarding of the perpetrators"?

This article offers evidence of the rewards giver to the cheaters at Noyes in DCPS:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/2011-03-28-1Aschooltesting28_CV_N.htm

Does anyone know where Rhee's "rockstar" principal Wayne Ryan is today?

Yes, quite the legacy Rhee left...I'm just glad that the mainstream media is finally challenging her version of the story.

[Anonymous]

She talked a good game but she lacked the experience needed to run a school system and made a bunch of novice mistakes. But if you criticized her, her supporters claimed you supported dysfunction in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I saw, most of they key parts of Rhee's agenda were never even given a chance to get rolling - it was mired in obstructionism, and she was driven out.

We will never really know if her plan was good or bad.

What were those "key parts"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She talked a good game but she lacked the experience needed to run a school system and made a bunch of novice mistakes. But if you criticized her, her supporters claimed you supported dysfunction in DCPS.

Even worse, if you criticized Rhee it showed that you were a racist who believed low income children of color couldn't succeed.

[Anonymous]

Dysfunction is the status quo in DCPS. Where is the CHANGE, where is the INNOVATION? I'm sure not seeing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She talked a good game but she lacked the experience needed to run a school system and made a bunch of novice mistakes. But if you criticized her, her supporters claimed you supported dysfunction in DCPS.

Even worse, if you criticized Rhee it showed that you were a racist who believed low income children of color couldn't succeed.

The DCPS system basically does have the fundamental attitude that low income children of color shouldn't be held to any high expectations. Draw whatever conclusions about racism on your own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She helped cover up cheating and actually rewarded handsomely the perpetrators because it helped her agenda. No matter what else she did, these facts stand out as her legacy to me.

Have a citation for that "handsome rewarding of the perpetrators"?

Just one for the moment:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/dc-should-decline-this-award/2011/04/27/AFymEo0E_blog.html

[Anonymous]

Rhee came into DCPS while it was showing poor results. She could have improved school lunches and extended nap time to pre-k and she would have look like an hero. Rhee is a fraud. I'm sure she meant well but everywhere she has been, there is always controversy that follows her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She helped cover up cheating and actually rewarded handsomely the perpetrators because it helped her agenda. No matter what else she did, these facts stand out as her legacy to me.

Have a citation for that "handsome rewarding of the perpetrators"?

Just one for the moment:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/dc-should-decline-this-award/2011/04/27/AFymEo0E_blog.html

The article talks about how HENDERSON handled it, not how RHEE handled it.

I guess you're going to blame Rhee for everything that happened afterward, just as the Bush supporters blamed Clinton for everything to go wrong for 8 solid years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dysfunction is the status quo in DCPS. Where is the CHANGE, where is the INNOVATION? I'm sure not seeing it.

+1. It's always "give us a chance", and "let the real professionals deal with teaching". Still waiting, waiting for years on those real professionals to unveil their proposed solution...

[Anonymous]

The problem with Rhee was her single-minded focus on raising achievement as measured by standardized tests. Her only reform, if you could call it that, was to end teacher tenure and institute a highly punitive and unfair evaluation instrument and use this instrument to fire hundreds of teachers.

She was successful at carrying out these "reforms". The trouble is, it hasn't worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She helped cover up cheating and actually rewarded handsomely the perpetrators because it helped her agenda. No matter what else she did, these facts stand out as her legacy to me.

Have a citation for that "handsome rewarding of the perpetrators"?

Just one for the moment:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/class-struggle/post/dc-should-decline-this-award/2011/04/27/AFymEo0E_blog.html

The article talks about how HENDERSON handled it, not how RHEE handled it.

I guess you're going to blame Rhee for everything that happened afterward, just as the Bush supporters blamed Clinton for everything to go wrong for 8 solid years.

Ummmm...The cheating happened while Rhee was in charge, and Rhee called for the lame investigation. I believe that Henderson was defending Rhee's choice of Principal of the year recommendation.