The whole Libya and Egypt reaction to that offensive video makes me fear the internet even more

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:has anyone seen the video? be interesting if anyone brings the filmmaker up on charges

Why on earth should the filmmaker be brought up on charges? For criticizing a religious figure? Making fun of someone's faith? Depicting a religious figure in unseemly situations?

Not illegal here in America.

Do I agree with what he did, no. Does he share responsibility, yes. But what he did is no different than artists who deface crucifixes, depict Jesus in negative ways, etc. The blame lies solely at the hands of the fanatics.

I was thinking more along the lines of manslaughter. But...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yea, blame that guy. Not the people carrying out the attacks. Ignore the real issue at hand here, which is the religion of "peace" known as Islam.

What I think is crazy is what this "Arab Spring" brought us, many more fanatics in lawless despotic countries.

Ignore the real issue at hand here: religion.

Educate yourself on the countless good works of John Paul II, or Mother Teresa. Or any number of Christian charities (who do MUCH more good than evil, since I know you will bring up well-publicized incidents from various religious backgrounds, ignoring the massive charity that Christian organizations do).

Wow, we have never heard of those people before. Thanks for the tip.

Now educate yourself about burning crosses and lynchings and abortion clinic bombers. Oh wait, that's totally different. Those are fringe extremists, false christians.

[Anonymous]

Oh no, its okay to make fun of Christianity. Don't you dare say anything about Islam. Remember the terrible movie 2012? BIg summer blockbuster a few years ago? There was a scene where the oceans destroy all the monuments, Vatican, Jesus in Brazil etc, one of them was Mecca. Well that leaked and the Muslims threatened to kill him.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Hjwy16j16BkJ:www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/07/director-of-2012-destroys-rome-spares-mecca/+2012+movie+mecca&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yea, blame that guy. Not the people carrying out the attacks. Ignore the real issue at hand here, which is the religion of "peace" known as Islam.

What I think is crazy is what this "Arab Spring" brought us, many more fanatics in lawless despotic countries.

Ignore the real issue at hand here: religion.

Educate yourself on the countless good works of John Paul II, or Mother Teresa. Or any number of Christian charities (who do MUCH more good than evil, since I know you will bring up well-publicized incidents from various religious backgrounds, ignoring the massive charity that Christian organizations do).

Wow, we have never heard of those people before. Thanks for the tip.

Now educate yourself about burning crosses and lynchings and abortion clinic bombers. Oh wait, that's totally different. Those are fringe extremists, false christians.

You really want to start a body count? Really? Don't be stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: One idiot create and incredibly offensive video and it spread like wildfire and negatively impacted our relationship with some countries in the Middle East. One idiot did this. People are dead now who would be alive if this video had never been created and disseminated.

I fear what moronic things my kids might do before they know better. The internet never forgets and it can be such a dangerous tool.

Look at all the man power involved in responding to the reaction in the Middle East. One american set this off. Mindboggling.

As a Jew, it is all the more painful to me to know this man was Jewish on so many levels. He has made his country less safe, he represented Jews poorly and his fellow Jews are even bigger targets now.

Yup, it's the internet you should be fearing... Not!

It doesn't matter who "set this off" - what matters is, what has been set off. And it's massive murderous rage over some youtube video. That there are millions of people like that in the world is what is scary. There is nothing scary about Jones or whoever else produces this kind of offensive stuff. There are billions of things out there that could offend me but I am not going to as much as spit on anyone over them.

[Anonymous]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81158.html The guy who made the film is a "coptic christian" whatever that is....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:has anyone seen the video? be interesting if anyone brings the filmmaker up on charges

Why on earth should the filmmaker be brought up on charges? For criticizing a religious figure? Making fun of someone's faith? Depicting a religious figure in unseemly situations?

Not illegal here in America.

Do I agree with what he did, no. Does he share responsibility, yes. But what he did is no different than artists who deface crucifixes, depict Jesus in negative ways, etc. The blame lies solely at the hands of the fanatics.

I was thinking more along the lines of manslaughter. But...

Free speech. It is one of our most precious freedoms. Just because a certain group feels death is the best argument against free speech does not mean we should start punishing our citizens for criticizing beliefs, expressing themselves through art, etc.

[Anonymous]

I do not know if this video is a free speech thing. It seem like a part of a plan to destabilize the middle east and cause the US problems. I would like this investigated and see where it goes. This could be part of a terrorist operation. It would be a very smart play and very hard for us to stop. We already know what the results of films/stuff like this does in parts of the muslim world. I bet all the key players with the films production are out of the country.

[Anonymous]

And yet here you are.

[Anonymous]

The people who made this film are Romney supports. Republicans are just amoral, supporting something like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81158.html The guy who made the film is a "coptic christian" whatever that is....

Coptic Christians are a sect of Christians in Egypt. The film maker knew what he was doing by making this film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copts

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/california-man-confirms-role-in-anti-islam-film/2012/09/13/9a166bda-fdb4-11e1-a31e-804fccb658f9_story.html?hpid=z1

[Anonymous]

How backward are you people? A guy made a video. The video was on the internet. And then a bunch of other people killed 4 people. And you blame the internet and the guy who made the video?

Please explain to me how making a hateful video is worse than killing people because you're angry? The problem isn't people making videos. The problem is killing people simply because you're angry at them.

When Nikki Minaj was mocking Catholicism at the Grammy's, I didn't become enraged and start killing people. I turned off the tv.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: One idiot create and incredibly offensive video and it spread like wildfire and negatively impacted our relationship with some countries in the Middle East. One idiot did this. People are dead now who would be alive if this video had never been created and disseminated.
I fear what moronic things my kids might do before they know better. The internet never forgets and it can be such a dangerous tool.
Look at all the man power involved in responding to the reaction in the Middle East. One american set this off. Mindboggling.
As a Jew, it is all the more painful to me to know this man was Jewish on so many levels. He has made his country less safe, he represented Jews poorly and his fellow Jews are even bigger targets now.

Anonymous wrote:has anyone seen the video? be interesting if anyone brings the filmmaker up on charges

Anonymous wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of manslaughter. But...

Now we know this guy's video did not spark a protest outside our Libyan embassy, that in fact there was no protest at all when the terrorists attacked and murdered 4 Americans. We know that this filmmaker does not share responsibility in this.

Do any of these posters want to take back what you wrote? Anyone else on this thread? The PP is mine, and I can say I still stand behind what I wrote. My only regret is that I took Obama's administration at their word when they said this started as a protest over an offensive video.