It hardly matters what the gun control laws are if the jurisdiction next to you hands them out at the county fair. There are so many countries with strict gun control, and they have low homicide rates and certainly low gun homicide rates. Our homicide rate is 3.5x the homicide rate of Great Britain, and then as you look at the major democracies it gets worse from there. The conservatives will dance around and say it's not apples to apples. But we have immigrants, they have immigrants. We have poor people, they have poor people (although they treat them better). The only logical explanations are (1) we are a particularly homicidal people, which seems impossible because we are an "exceptional" nation, or (2) the availability of guns increases the rate of homicide. It's heartbreaking but I think in the last month I read about two or three area children killed by accidental gun shot, and then there was recently a police officer who killed his own son, who was entering a hotel room. I recall one area crime recently stopped by a citizen with a gun, and then I'd have to go back to that woman in Oklahoma who shot two intruders breaking into her home. |
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Heres a website entirely devoted to these stories.
http://gunssavelives.net/ the most recent is this past sunday night. |
| Errrr.....a gun saved George Zimmerman's life! |
Um, we have pretty horrible social problems as compared to the UK. We have a generation of youth that have no respect for their own lives, the lives of others, and they are having babies at a rapid rate. There is a complete breakdown in the family and accountability and total tolerance by the communities that surround them. There are pleanty of guns in communities with entact families and shared values and you don't see dead school kids at the playground caught in the cross fire. Canada has no shortage of gun owners, but quite the dearth of violent gun related crime. It boils down to family values and the EXPECTATIONS of society and community. This is what our violent communities are lacking. |
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PP here.
i'd like to add that we don't own a gun and will never own a gun, but I'm not going to place blame of violence on guns. Blaming something the gun does nothing to fix the underlaying problem. Nobody will address the real issue because it is politically incorrect to place blame on people, rather "the system". |
You should probably educate yourself about the current state of affairs in the UK. |
| Recently, a friend of a friend had a guy try to abduct her near Tysons and she let him know that she had a concealed weapon. He fled. She's convinced that the gun saved her life. Unfortunately a bunch of her friends are now convinced that a gun would also save them and they're taking shooting classes. I don't know how I feel about this, given that often guns end up hurting people and not helping them. |
china http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13086802-china-teen-kills-8-wounds-5-in-knife-attack-after-fight-with-girlfriend |
can you elaborate on the details, like place and the situation, perp's appearance? |
They are and they have been happening for many years. The difference is that they used to just be local news but with the way the media works now and with the internet, the small town news is now national news. |
THAT is funny. |
She told her she couldn't tell her to shoot anyone, but the mom should do what she needs to to protect her baby and herself. |
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I've seen plenty of videos of guns stopping store robberies.
Also, using a gun to stop a crime does not always involve shooting it. It's very likely to make the news if someone shoots a robber. But if someone just pulls their gun out and scares the assailant enough to poop his pants and run, chances are it won't makes the news, especially national news. Quite often you need blood to make the news. |
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Edinboro, Pennsylvania. A 14-year-old middle school student opened fire at a school graduation dance, being held at a local restaurant. The shooter killed one teacher and wounded two students and another teacher. The armed teenager was apprehended by the restaurant owner, who grabbed his own shotgun from his office and went after the shooter. Staring into the owner's shotgun, the teen dropped his gun and surrendered.
Pearl, Mississippi. A 16-year-old sophomore entered Pearl High with a hunting rifle under his overcoat. He opened fire, killing two students and wounding seven. The assistant principal, Joel Myrick, ran to his truck and retrieved the .45 automatic he kept there. Running back, he spotted the shooter in the parking lot. Ordering the teen to stop, the vice principal put his gun to the shooter's neck and held him until police arrived. Grundy, Virginia. At Appalachian Law School, a disgruntled student on the verge of his second suspension entered a school building and shot and killed the dean and a professor. He then shot four students, killing one. Hearing the shots fired, two students, Michael Gross and Tracy Bridges, ran to their cars to retrieve their guns. With guns aimed at the shooter, Bridges ordered him to drop his weapon. When the shooter turned and saw Bridges' gun, he laid down his weapon and put his hands in the air |
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A few more
http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/04/25/georgia-grandmother-fends-wouldbe-thieves-guns/ http://news.yahoo.com/idaho-man-charged-soliciting-wifes-rape-using-craigslist-151437148.html [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4h_7YZHWE&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube] |