Chances with these scores on Appeal

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don't listen to the jealous naysayers. Your chances on appeal are excellent.

Thank you.. I am just concerned about the low working memory and processing speed scores which made the FISQ to go to 124.

I would be happy if the committee look into the subtest scores as well..
Anonymous
The committee will consider the subtest scores, but I think it could go either way. Best of luck to you!
Anonymous
Would your child do fine in the regular classroom? If not, write a letter explaining why your child's needs will not be met in the regular classroom and include it with the child's WISC scores. Also, explain in the letter the discrepancy about the ESOL placement- that seems to be a fact they should be aware of. The committee's purpose is to identify those children whose educational needs can only be met the AAP classroom.
Best wishes for the best outcome for your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't listen to the jealous naysayers. Your chances on appeal are excellent.

Thank you.. I am just concerned about the low working memory and processing speed scores which made the FISQ to go to 124.

I would be happy if the committee look into the subtest scores as well..


You should raise that question with your tester. It seems that the GAI should have been calculated, which would have been higher than the FSIQ.
Anonymous
Our psychologist told us that Carol Horn herself of the AAP office does not like the GAI and feels that when it is calculated the tester is manipulating the data for the appeal. They can tell by looking roughly what the GAI would be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Our psychologist told us that Carol Horn herself of the AAP office does not like the GAI and feels that when it is calculated the tester is manipulating the data for the appeal. They can tell by looking roughly what the GAI would be.


Interesting. There was some discussion during this year's AAPAC meetings about GAI as it is often used for twice-exceptional children. No one ever suggested that a "tester is manipulating the data" when evaluating twice-exceptional students.
Anonymous
More on GAI on the test publisher's website -- note the later slides discussing calculation and use of the GAI with the FSIQ in certain instances, including ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome.

http://www.pearsonassessments.com/hai/Images/Products/Wechsler/Wechsler_GAI.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NNAT: 133
Cogat: 120
GBRS: 13
Report Cards: Mostly "O"..

Found ineligible.. Planning to do appeal with WISC scores.

WISC scores are:
Verbal Comprehension 126, Perceptual Organization 131 Working Memory 102 Processing Speed 109 Full Scale: 124

The Verbal Comprehension 126 and Perceptual Organization are the high scores in the subtests of WISC.. but becos of Working Memory and processing speed scores in the average range, the FUll Scale is 124.

Does the appeals committe look into the sub tests score? or only the Full Scale?

Please comment.


Your DC has very very high chances of getting as my DC got in last year with similar scores: WISC 125 (FSIQ) and 11 GBRS.
Anonymous
08:22:
Thanks for the wonderful information about the WISC 125 (FSIQ) and 11 GBRS.
Would you also help me by providing a little more information on the other scores? Cogat, NNAT and the WISC subtest scores?

Much appreciated!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our psychologist told us that Carol Horn herself of the AAP office does not like the GAI and feels that when it is calculated the tester is manipulating the data for the appeal. They can tell by looking roughly what the GAI would be.


Interesting. There was some discussion during this year's AAPAC meetings about GAI as it is often used for twice-exceptional children. No one ever suggested that a "tester is manipulating the data" when evaluating twice-exceptional students.


We must use the same tester. Ours also said Carol Horn dislikes seeing the GAI reported. Our DS got in with NNAT 130, CogAt 117, GBRS 12 (denied first round); WISC Full Scale 129 (unreported GAI 136). His processing speed and working memory also pulled the full scale down. They know this. The Verbal and Perceptual scores mean more to the committee. You are in good shape.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our psychologist told us that Carol Horn herself of the AAP office does not like the GAI and feels that when it is calculated the tester is manipulating the data for the appeal. They can tell by looking roughly what the GAI would be.


Interesting. There was some discussion during this year's AAPAC meetings about GAI as it is often used for twice-exceptional children. No one ever suggested that a "tester is manipulating the data" when evaluating twice-exceptional students.


We must use the same tester. Ours also said Carol Horn dislikes seeing the GAI reported. Our DS got in with NNAT 130, CogAt 117, GBRS 12 (denied first round); WISC Full Scale 129 (unreported GAI 136). His processing speed and working memory also pulled the full scale down. They know this. The Verbal and Perceptual scores mean more to the committee. You are in good shape.


That's odd because they recommend GMU and GMU DOES calculate the GAI. My child had HUGE discrepancies. His scores showed both FSIQ and GAI. NNAT 117, Cogat composite 136 (perfect score in the nonverbal portion). WISC scores were consistent in that non-verbal was 99th percentile, whereas verbal was lower and WM and Processing Speed were really low. 2nd grade DRA was 28 (is a HUGE reader now though). Got in on appeal. Getting A's and a few B's in AAP in 4th grade now.
Anonymous


Question


Over all WISC 96 Percent GBRS 13, Mostly O in report card..what are the chances if I appeal for my DC

Appreciate reply please....
Anonymous
Question .....


Over all WISC 96 Percent GBRS 13, Mostly O in report card..what are the chances if I appeal for my DC

Appreciate reply please....











Anonymous
The FISQ score is 96 or the the DC is in the 96 percentile (Superior) in all?
Anonymous
what is the actual score for FSIQ?
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