Big College Admissions Year at St. Albans

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Heard that 26 out of a senior class of 74 were accepted at an Ivy this year (was also told this was an unusually strong group).



What you should also have heard was that MOST of the admitees are "legacies".......(to be fair. however, not ALL are legacies but a large proportion are...)
Anonymous
If most are legacies then it's not THAT impressive. DS is an Ivy legacy + we're big donors, 7 figures, so we know he'll probably get in no matter where we send him to hs. Right now he's at a DCPCS. The only reason we will switch in the later grades is for the cohort factor a PP mentioned. All these college matriculation figures are useless unless it gives some idea of how many of the kids admitted to the most selective schools are legacies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Heard that 26 out of a senior class of 74 were accepted at an Ivy this year (was also told this was an unusually strong group).



What you should also have heard was that MOST of the admitees are "legacies".......(to be fair. however, not ALL are legacies but a large proportion are...)


That is wildly inaccurate. The vast majority of these kids were admitted to Ivies at which they are NOT legacies. (And stories like the guy who got in early to his "legacy" Ivy and then got in regular admission to all the other Ivies AND won a Morehead are true also, and negate the idea that anyone with an Ivy parent "doesn't count.").

It's amazing how nobody can ever just say "wow, good year" and move on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If most are legacies then it's not THAT impressive. DS is an Ivy legacy + we're big donors, 7 figures, so we know he'll probably get in no matter where we send him to hs. Right now he's at a DCPCS. The only reason we will switch in the later grades is for the cohort factor a PP mentioned. All these college matriculation figures are useless unless it gives some idea of how many of the kids admitted to the most selective schools are legacies.


I think you are probably right, but just don't bet all your money on legacies getting into Harvard no matter what. A family fried of ours (both parents double Harvard legacies plus both graduated from Harvard medical school and very successful doctors) was very disappointed when their son (went to public high school but graduated at the top of his class) was WL at Harvard but got into most other top Ivys.
Anonymous
Here are the ones I know of:

Yale-5 admits (1 legacy)
Harvard-6 admits (1 legacy)
Dartmouth-4 admits (1 legacy)
Columbia - 2 admits (0 legacies)
Penn - 5 admits (2 legacies)
Princeton - 1 (0 legacy)

I'm missing a couple of kids but less than a quarter had a legacy connection.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here are the ones I know of:

Yale-5 admits (1 legacy)
Harvard-6 admits (1 legacy)
Dartmouth-4 admits (1 legacy)
Columbia - 2 admits (0 legacies)
Penn - 5 admits (2 legacies)
Princeton - 1 (0 legacy)

I'm missing a couple of kids but less than a quarter had a legacy connection.


That is very impressive. Do you have any information on Stanford, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Duke, U Chicago?
Anonymous
I have heard of several Stanford admits and a couple at U Chicago; several at Georgetown; haven't heard of any Duke, MIT, Hopkins but I haven't heard a comprehensive list by any means.
Anonymous
23:55, how many of those are "doubles"? In other words, was one boy was admitted to all six colleges, and another to four of six?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:23:55, how many of those are "doubles"? In other words, was one boy was admitted to all six colleges, and another to four of six?


Good question, it was confusing. I've heard there were 26 different students being accepted to at least one Ivy; my list of 23 was 23 different boys. Five of the eight Ivies offer early decision, which is binding, so boys who got in early did not apply to any additional schools. HYP are Early Action (non binding) and I believe most of the HYP early admits stood pat but a few applied and were accepted to additional Ivies. For anyone admitted early (I believe the total was 17) I listed them with that school even if they applied to additional schools later. For the additional students who applied regular and/or were deferred, I only listed them matched with one Ivy even though a number got into multiple Ivies. For the legacy thing I'm going on a combination of what the kids report verified to an extent if I know where the parents went to school, and I mean "primary legacy" (parent attended) because that is the big one in terms of a boost to admissions.

Yes, I'm embarrassed to have paid such attention to this but the kids did talk about it a lot after the early admits and now. Most other times it doesn't come up.
Anonymous
How is the middle of the class doing this year re: college admissions?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How is the middle of the class doing this year re: college admissions?


I don't know -- the student newspaper usually publishes a list in their final issue -- for now it is just word of mouth so those who are happiest and most disappointed are the ones we hear about. Plus the kid grapevine is erratic; this week it will all be "the Capitals made the playoffs" and I won't hear a word about college, lol (probably a good thing).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How is the middle of the class doing this year re: college admissions?


Yes. I'd also like to know the basic academic profile of middle of the class students. For example: Their GPA range, test scores, ECs, and if they were placed in a lower math track from 9th grade on.
Anonymous
Yes, each class at these elite schools is quite different. Last year, StA had 2 National Merit winners, which is even more impressive (both from Norwood originally). But I agree that if you go to each of the gold-plated private HSs in the area, you will find differences from year to year based on who the kids are in the class, which can stem from a variety of sources. (For example, for those applying in 9th grade Potomac is a very hot school and is getting great kids.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is the middle of the class doing this year re: college admissions?


Yes. I'd also like to know the basic academic profile of middle of the class students. For example: Their GPA range, test scores, ECs, and if they were placed in a lower math track from 9th grade on.


Ah, the Easter Bunny brought sarcasm this morning! On one level, of course it is silly to parse this stuff when only the families and college counselor really know the circumstances of any given student's college results. On another level, people care about college acceptances and it's a relatively harmless past time to chew over for a couple of weeks in the fall and spring each year. I think most people understand that the admissions landscape has changed; that there are lots of great schools; that it's about picking the right college for the individual kid; and that it's the kids' achievements, not the high school, that matters. But it's still entertaining to hear this stuff (or we wouldn't red Hesse threads).
Anonymous
"read these threads," not "red Hesse threads" (thanks, Teutonic spell check).
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