I wonder if Likud and Saudi Arabia are timing this to sink the economy in an election year to destroy Obama's chances of reelection and to bring to power their Republican toadies. |
It's hard to believe that we defeated their mortal enemy for them. But then, it's hard to believe that we sold them thousands of TOW and Hawk missiles after they took our people hostage. Can anyone explain why Republicans keep giving them gifts? |
Could've been worse. 3000 is unfortunate but the libs thought it would reach vietnam levels, remember the This is Bush's Vietnam BS LOLz |
Yeah, we could have attacked the wrong country by mistake. Oh wait... |
So an unnecessary war is justified if it was not as bad as the last unnecessary war? Then even if we overlook the fact that this economic downturn was a Bush holdover, it's okay, since it's not as bad as the Hoover mess. |
It would be wonderful for oil/gas to cost so much. It would finally force the US to start thinking about alternate energy sources, such as solar, electric, etc. The US has benefited from cheap oil for years, and it just cannot last forever. Go to any European country and you will find very expensive oil/gas. Those countries have invested in mass transit and that is good for everyone. I for one am happy. |
And their economies are FUCKED |
At the very least Bush setup a great launching pad to hit Iran so its a win |
Moron, we aren't even on that launching pad. Don't you remember, Bush signed away the launch pad right before he left office. |
everytime gas prices go up, people act as if gas prices never hit over $4 a gallon before or something and we go into "looking for alternatives" and "investigating the oil companies"
instability in the market is causing the prices to go up. speculators (more than normal) are crowding the market and driving futures up which in turn drive prices now. doesnt help that demand is high and no tapping the ground here and there isnt going to drive the price down that dramatically either so stop dreaming. and iran has been "months away" from a nuclear weapon for how many YEARS now? the president in office thats got to deal with iran whenever they decide to finally go there is going to be screwed for his whole term. i dont care what party. i think too many people arent taking this seriously that an attack may come out of nowhere. this isnt to suggest we attack iran but we better be on their behinds hard with sanctions and the like cause im not interested in another war that we could have prevented if we kept our eye on the ball |
Is your husband, wife, son, or daughter currently in the U.S. military. It is always so easy to send someone else to war so that you can have cheap gas. |
The only reason the deaths are so low is due to medical technological advances. Many of those wounded in Iraq would have died with the medical technology of Vietnam era. Instead of death, they are permanently and/or severly wounded. Oh and I still don't see in the future how we won in Iraq. i think the biggest winner are the Shiite Iranians. I support our US military, but I think they are not proteccted by our civilian elected officials and their pundits. |
Or Kuwait / Qatar and we would have iran fly over access |
*IRAQ fly over |
You're right about that. Because of advances in medical care and armor, the American servicemen who would have died in Vietnam era instead have been maimed and broken, physically as well as mentally. What we've seen is a much higher rate of survival of wounds (around 9% in Iraq versus 24% in Vietnam). Given the nature of warfare in Iraq--where many of the wounded were struck down by IEDs, we're seeing a very high rate of traumatic brain injuries. And those aren't fully reflected in the casualty statistics. In any case, the number of wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan are something on the order of 35,000, and given the kia/wia ratio, the wounded tend to be more gravely/permanently injured than in the Vietnam era. lots and lots of amputees. Lots and lots of debilitating and permanent brain injuries, some of which are downplayed to drive down the numbers. As you so eloquently put it, "LOLz". |