Public v. private school teacher salaries

Anonymous
This issue brief from the Dept of Ed. might be a good starting point for references.

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/2006081.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:84 K is a great salary, why all the complaining? That is more than most profs at these universities make.


Seriously? On this forum? I'm not singling you out, but after reading a bunch of threads where folks talk about how hard it is to live around here with a six figure income, I find this a little offensive. I guess the folks busting their butts to teach my kids, paying for suplies out of their own pockets and, you know, having to deal with IEPs...'cause in this country every student regardless of disability is entitled to an appropriate and free education, don't deserve a decent living.
Anonymous
I think you also need to realize that teachers may not get paid during the summer. In my county, 10 month contracted teachers do not have the option of having their salary over a 12 month period. So every teacher I know has to find a lame, crappy, poorly paid summer job to make ends meet. So to those who think teachers have it made having summer off need to realize that unless a teacher is married to someone making a really good salary, they cannot take their summers off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think you also need to realize that teachers may not get paid during the summer. In my county, 10 month contracted teachers do not have the option of having their salary over a 12 month period. So every teacher I know has to find a lame, crappy, poorly paid summer job to make ends meet. So to those who think teachers have it made having summer off need to realize that unless a teacher is married to someone making a really good salary, they cannot take their summers off.


Can you take a certain amount of money each month and set it aside so you can pay yourself over the summer? That's what I do even though where I teach (Fairfax Co.), you can spread your salary over 12 months if you choose to. Of course you have to make sure you don't touch that money all year, but it does earn interest and allows me to get "paid" over the summer without getting another job. That said, I know that you have to be able to have enough money left over to set it aside each month, but it is a way to earn a little extra in interest and not stress over the summer.
Anonymous
20:31. That makes no sense! Whether you get paid in ten installments or twelve installments DOESN'T MATTER. When I taught, I got paid in 12 installments and it was a royal pain in the ass. I couldn't cash the July check until July, and I wasn't necessarily in town in July. Same with August. It irked even more because I'd already completed the work. If it is a choice between me or my employer earning interest on my earnings, I'd rather it be me.

Teachers often do find summer jobs to make ends meet - the salaries aren't great. However, ten v twelve months is irrelevant.

When I was a teacher (young and childless) I traveled every summer and saw wonderful and amazing places. I did not work.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:84 K is a great salary, why all the complaining? That is more than most profs at these universities make.

I agree, and tbe burnout at the university level is a reality too.

It seems like when you consider the investment which is much less for high school that university, high school is a better deal. Those profs have to have a PhD.


True but the academic life is quite different from working at a high school. In most cases, you have a lot more autonomy and control over your daily schedule. You don't have to deal with a supervisor. As long as you like to teach, even if your colleagues are nut cases, you can focus on your teaching and do your research on your own and be quite happy.

K-12 teachers deserve to be well-paid because their jobs are a lot harder and they have so many more constraints on their work lives.

I'm speaking as a former academic (who would like to be an academic again but the job market is just lousy).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:84 K is a great salary, why all the complaining? That is more than most profs at these universities make.

I agree, and tbe burnout at the university level is a reality too.

It seems like when you consider the investment which is much less for high school that university, high school is a better deal. Those profs have to have a PhD.


True but the academic life is quite different from working at a high school. In most cases, you have a lot more autonomy and control over your daily schedule. You don't have to deal with a supervisor. As long as you like to teach, even if your colleagues are nut cases, you can focus on your teaching and do your research on your own and be quite happy.

K-12 teachers deserve to be well-paid because their jobs are a lot harder and they have so many more constraints on their work lives.

I'm speaking as a former academic (who would like to be an academic again but the job market is just lousy).


Did you do both? That is College Prof and school teacher?
Anonymous
21:41 here -- No, I only was a college prof so I'm not a total expert on it -- but I see how little privacy and autonomy K-12 teachers get. I had my own office. I set my own schedule. As long as I covered my classes and office hours and did my research, no one was looking over my shoulder all the time. I decided what books to use in my class and what areas to emphasize.
Anonymous
I get your point, but when you look at the qualifications that teachers have, their salaries are not that far out of line with other porfessionals with similar training.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I get your point, but when you look at the qualifications that teachers have, their salaries are not that far out of line with other porfessionals with similar training.


I am the FCPS teacher who posted before who will make $65,000 this year. While I don't think that is a bad salary and the benefits are good, it does irk me when I see certain people who work much less than I do and make the same salary. For example, my DH used to work for the federal govt. His secretary called in sick all the time and when she was there, she did virtually nothing. She had a high school diploma and had basically worked for the federal govt since she got out of high school. At the time (3 years ago), she actually made more than I did as a teacher. I know that happens with many jobs where people work hard, but get paid very little (social workers, non-profits, etc), but it did irritate me every time my DH told me she had called in sick yet again, but was still earning $60,000+ and great benefits.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I get your point, but when you look at the qualifications that teachers have, their salaries are not that far out of line with other porfessionals with similar training.


I am the FCPS teacher who posted before who will make $65,000 this year. While I don't think that is a bad salary and the benefits are good, it does irk me when I see certain people who work much less than I do and make the same salary. For example, my DH used to work for the federal govt. His secretary called in sick all the time and when she was there, she did virtually nothing. She had a high school diploma and had basically worked for the federal govt since she got out of high school. At the time (3 years ago), she actually made more than I did as a teacher. I know that happens with many jobs where people work hard, but get paid very little (social workers, non-profits, etc), but it did irritate me every time my DH told me she had called in sick yet again, but was still earning $60,000+ and great benefits.


How long has she been in that job?
Anonymous
What do teachers think a fair salary would be?
Anonymous
I teach at a private school. I make $35,000 a year, n o benefits. But I love it. I am fortunate that my husband makes the bulk of our income. I have seen many great teachers leave because of the salary. By the way, I have two grad. degrees.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I teach at a private school. I make $35,000 a year, n o benefits. But I love it. I am fortunate that my husband makes the bulk of our income. I have seen many great teachers leave because of the salary. By the way, I have two grad. degrees.

Is that full time? Is the school's tuition high? Would you consider public for more money?
Anonymous
I don't understand where the $30,000 tuition goes if teachers are only paid $35,000. Nice gyms and auditoriums? Beautifully manicured grounds? Give me a break.
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