Penn State students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Really? You want to compare the two? Really? Not even in a million years do the two events come close to being comparable. Showing support for Tech is nothing like showing support for Paterno.

And that is what those students are doing. They are showing support for Paterno, not for Penn State and not for the victims.

[Anonymous]

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I am a Penn State grad and there are plenty of us out there that are just as shocked, horrified and disgusted as non Penn state alumni. Words can't express the emotions I am feeling right now. To think that I used to go the games and cheer this man on. He was supposed to be a role model and I wish I knew what he was thinking when he chose to keep quiet. I threw out my Penn State football gear - looking at that stuff makes me cry for the victims.

On a secondary note, I wish I could get a refund of my tuition. I am about to start looking for a new job and am embarrassed to list Penn State as my university. I honestly think this is going to impact the future hiring of Penn State grads.

We are all not like those thoughtless kids you see rioting on the news.

You are completely right to be concerned and ashamed. You are right that the actions of those few do not reflect the majority, but it is the few we are all going to remember.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Really? You want to compare the two? Really? Not even in a million years do the two events come close to being comparable. Showing support for Tech is nothing like showing support for Paterno.

And that is what those students are doing. They are showing support for Paterno, not for Penn State and not for the victims.

How is Paterno getting railroaded? This is a team sport, and he achieved his successes on the shoulders of everyone on the team. He and others had moral obligation to report him to the police and stop him from doing this to others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also to add

What about the victims?

I mean seriously, its like they are being violated all over again. 2000+ people rioting against those poor boys. So very sad.

Not rioting against the boys - but rioting because they are idiot college students.

I had a friend (a mother of a 4 year old boy) who posted on facebook today "proud to be a PSU alumni"

I said "Good for you! Proud to be a mother against anal assult of young boys"

I have a friend who showed her support of Paterno today on FB too and she is the mom to 2 young boys. She didn't even go there and not sure why she has such a strong feeling Paterno (she didn't grow up in the State College area). Maybe her husband or parents went there, I don't know. And she posted something on Paterno's wall!
I give you credit for standing up to your friend--I'm way too chickenshit to say anything to mine. I mean, believe what you want but to put something positive about Paterno on your FB page when you have two young boys just seems a little stupid to me knowing how politically charged this situation is. But some people are REALLY stupid when it comes to FB so I'm not surprised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I totally get that these are idiot college students, but still cannot fathom how it feels to be one of those victims living in this college town where:

1) You were assaulted by a mentor and coach
2) It was covered up by many white, educated men who were supposed to be your mentors
3) Now they have been arrested and fired, but the students at Penn State riot to show support for the men that hurt you

In a small college town - I can imagine that feels like the whole town hates you and could be out to get you if they find out your identity. Seriously. You'd have to walk by these people on a daily basis.

wtf with the "white men" stuff???? now this is a racial issue????

Heeelllooo...these were boys in a at-risk youth group. Read: black boys.

Not the pp you are responding to, but since when does "at risk youth" = black boys? You sound really prejudiced and just as stupid as the Penn State idiots. At least they have lack of age as an excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally get that these are idiot college students, but still cannot fathom how it feels to be one of those victims living in this college town where:

1) You were assaulted by a mentor and coach
2) It was covered up by many white, educated men who were supposed to be your mentors
3) Now they have been arrested and fired, but the students at Penn State riot to show support for the men that hurt you

In a small college town - I can imagine that feels like the whole town hates you and could be out to get you if they find out your identity. Seriously. You'd have to walk by these people on a daily basis.

wtf with the "white men" stuff???? now this is a racial issue????

Heeelllooo...these were boys in a at-risk youth group. Read: black boys.

Not the pp you are responding to, but since when does "at risk youth" = black boys? You sound really prejudiced and just as stupid as the Penn State idiots. At least they have lack of age as an excuse.

i kind of thought of the same thing. As a foster mom, people are a bit suprised that the maority of the children in our system in my county (VA suburb) are white. I guess they only assume black people end up in the system.

[Anonymous]

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Heeelllooo...these were boys in a at-risk youth group. Read: black boys.

You've obviously never been to this part of Pennsylvania. They were white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Really? You want to compare the two? Really? Not even in a million years do the two events come close to being comparable. Showing support for Tech is nothing like showing support for Paterno.

And that is what those students are doing. They are showing support for Paterno, not for Penn State and not for the victims.

How is Paterno getting railroaded? This is a team sport, and he achieved his successes on the shoulders of everyone on the team. He and others had moral obligation to report him to the police and stop him from doing this to others.

they think he is getting railroaded. Maybe he did nothing wrong? we really don't know all the facts. that is their issue. If he didn't know about the 98 incident and didnt fully hear or understand that 02 incident, then perhaps they are right. Those are big assumptions though. Sandusky was not working for Paterno in 09, and the grand jury found his testimony to be completely credible (but not so for the other two).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Poor analogy. PSU administration is guilty for protecting a criminal in its ranks, for not protecting a child when confronted with eyewitness accounts of a heinous crime. The VT community was the victim of a psychologically sick student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Poor analogy. PSU administration is guilty for protecting a criminal in its ranks, for not protecting a child when confronted with eyewitness accounts of a heinous crime. The VT community was the victim of a psychologically sick student.

both tragedies nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it isnt that simple. When you think someone you love and know is getting railroaded, you want to defend them and your school. School spirit is important. I was overseas when the Virginia Tech shootings took place, but I made a point of proudly wearing a VT hat for a few days just to show my little support. Not the same as rioting (which is really just a few hundred drunk fools out of a campus of 50,000), but same general idea.

Poor analogy. PSU administration is guilty for protecting a criminal in its ranks, for not protecting a child when confronted with eyewitness accounts of a heinous crime. The VT community was the victim of a psychologically sick student.

both tragedies nonetheless.

Just separated by 180 degrees.

[Anonymous]

Hey kids, let's put this in football terms so you can understand:

You're rooting for the WRONG DAMN TEAM, y'all.

I want to give these students a pass because they are young and immature... but I'm really, really having a hard time doing so.

[Anonymous]

They're 18-20 years old and just still in the first stage: denial. They'll come around.

[Anonymous]

Went to PSU for graduate school. Graduated a few years ago. I never bled blue and white, but I'm shocked and sickened by the rioting. Embarrassed to be affiliated.

[Anonymous]

I wanted my daughter (who's a senior next year) to get into Penn State. Now, I'm not so sure at all. Not because I don't think it's still a good school, but because I know folks will think of this when they see the school line on her resume.