How do we get more teachers and teachers' aides in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then they are paraprofessionals, not aides or assistants. In our county, they only work in special ed classes. The regular ed teachers don't get any help unless parents volunteer. And even if they make $25-$30K, how can live on that?

Last time I checked, the US had an unemployment rate of approx. 9%. I am quite certain that plenty of qualified applicants exist for an hourly-wage job like classroom aide. This job would be perfect for a young college grad (perhaps thinking of a career as a teacher), for an empty nester who has always had a passion for teaching but never became a teacher, for a retired executive who wants to give back, for a single mother without much formal education but with a love of children. Not every job requires top shelf /full benefits, etc. (In fact, one main reason that MOCO taxes can't cover more full time teacher in the classroom now is b/c of the over-the-top teacher's benefits handed out for decades in the past.) Providing an hourly wage job of this type is not some sort of scandalous abuse...it is a win/win situation both for the job seeker and for our schools.[/quote

got to love that line

PP, I'd put you in the "without much formal education" category.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher and my DD qualifies for free preschool in our county b/c I make so little. When I first started teaching, had she been in school then, she would've qualified for a reduced priced lunch. I cannot believe that anyone would think that people would be lining up to work as a teaching assistant making $25K per year w/ no benefits. It would be impossible for one person to live on that. They would have to be supported by their parents or a husband to live on that.

[Anonymous]

Raise taxes. Amazing that people think you can get something for nothing. We have to pay, and pay a lot, and it will be worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Raise taxes. Amazing that people think you can get something for nothing. We have to pay, and pay a lot, and it will be worth it.

MCPS administrators need more personal cars like the ones they are getting this week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raise taxes. Amazing that people think you can get something for nothing. We have to pay, and pay a lot, and it will be worth it.

MCPS administrators need more personal cars like the ones they are getting this week.

While I agree there might be other places to cut, those places are small. In a district this size, the amount of money needed to fund something like aides for every classroom is astronomical. The ONLY way it could ever happen would be through raised taxes. There are no other possible ways to sustain something of that magnitude. Taxpayers have to be willing to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop funding the illegals

Sadly, that will never happen. Instead arts/music teachers are getting cut for ESOL teachers. Dems love the illegals sob storis. Paying no taxes, working under the table and send your kids for a free education with free breakfast and lunch isn't good enough. Somehow we pity those that broke the law instead of booting them back home. I will never understand it. MCPS is drowning in illegals and the legal kids are paying for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then they are paraprofessionals, not aides or assistants. In our county, they only work in special ed classes. The regular ed teachers don't get any help unless parents volunteer. And even if they make $25-$30K, how can live on that?

Last time I checked, the US had an unemployment rate of approx. 9%. I am quite certain that plenty of qualified applicants exist for an hourly-wage job like classroom aide. This job would be perfect for a young college grad (perhaps thinking of a career as a teacher), for an empty nester who has always had a passion for teaching but never became a teacher, for a retired executive who wants to give back, for a single mother without much formal education but with a love of children. Not every job requires top shelf /full benefits, etc. (In fact, one main reason that MOCO taxes can't cover more full time teacher in the classroom now is b/c of the over-the-top teacher's benefits handed out for decades in the past.) Providing an hourly wage job of this type is not some sort of scandalous abuse...it is a win/win situation both for the job seeker and for our schools.[/quote

got to love that line

PP, I'd put you in the "without much formal education" category.

+1

A love of children does not make a person qualified to teach (or help teach).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop funding the illegals

Sadly, that will never happen. Instead arts/music teachers are getting cut for ESOL teachers. Dems love the illegals sob storis. Paying no taxes, working under the table and send your kids for a free education with free breakfast and lunch isn't good enough. Somehow we pity those that broke the law instead of booting them back home. I will never understand it. MCPS is drowning in illegals and the legal kids are paying for it.

It is just a matter for asking for a birth certificate or a visa before being allowed into a school. Every other country, you have to show proof of ID to go to a public or private school there. I never understood why we don't. What is wrong for only want legal kids in school. But somehow someone will call me a bigot or racist or snob for even suggesting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop funding the illegals

Sadly, that will never happen. Instead arts/music teachers are getting cut for ESOL teachers. Dems love the illegals sob storis. Paying no taxes, working under the table and send your kids for a free education with free breakfast and lunch isn't good enough. Somehow we pity those that broke the law instead of booting them back home. I will never understand it. MCPS is drowning in illegals and the legal kids are paying for it.

It is just a matter for asking for a birth certificate or a visa before being allowed into a school. Every other country, you have to show proof of ID to go to a public or private school there. I never understood why we don't. What is wrong for only want legal kids in school. But somehow someone will call me a bigot or racist or snob for even suggesting it.

All students in MCPS provide a birth certificate before being enrolled, or multiple forms of some other identification, if a birth certificate is not available. Parents must also prove residency through pay stub, bank account or bill with their name and address on it. You presumably want students to be forced to prove citizenship, which is something different.

Here's something that will likely surprise you--the vast, vast majority of MCPS ESOL students are natural born US citizens. Perhaps that information will help you understand.

[Anonymous]

New revenue stream - taxes, something...
Make developers contibute more toward the schools that will be needed for all the new high rise construction,...
MCPS needs to build schools for all the kids who will occupy those high rises and we need to fund those schools and teachers.
I would gladly pay more to get better school construction and better ratios.
Year round school - at least for the parents/kids who want it would also be great. If i did not have to pay for summer camp, i would gladly pay more in taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop funding the illegals

Sadly, that will never happen. Instead arts/music teachers are getting cut for ESOL teachers. Dems love the illegals sob storis. Paying no taxes, working under the table and send your kids for a free education with free breakfast and lunch isn't good enough. Somehow we pity those that broke the law instead of booting them back home. I will never understand it. MCPS is drowning in illegals and the legal kids are paying for it.

It is just a matter for asking for a birth certificate or a visa before being allowed into a school. Every other country, you have to show proof of ID to go to a public or private school there. I never understood why we don't. What is wrong for only want legal kids in school. But somehow someone will call me a bigot or racist or snob for even suggesting it.

All students in MCPS provide a birth certificate before being enrolled, or multiple forms of some other identification, if a birth certificate is not available. Parents must also prove residency through pay stub, bank account or bill with their name and address on it. You presumably want students to be forced to prove citizenship, which is something different.

Here's something that will likely surprise you--the vast, vast majority of MCPS ESOL students are natural born US citizens. Perhaps that information will help you understand.

Wow, not the PP but can you point me in the direction that shows this fact? A vast, vast majority isn't an actual fact, it is your opinion. I would like to see the info on this. I volunteer in my children's school all the time and I have seen the ESOL classes and they are all hispanic kids with maybe 1-2 asian or middle eastern children. I don't believe this vast statement. I can also tell that most of the ESOL kids are also on FARMS eating breakfast every morning. And if you say that natural US born citizens include anchor babies, well that isn't natural. It is an illegal immigrant coming here to pop a baby out to reap the benefits from your tax dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and my DD qualifies for free preschool in our county b/c I make so little. When I first started teaching, had she been in school then, she would've qualified for a reduced priced lunch. I cannot believe that anyone would think that people would be lining up to work as a teaching assistant making $25K per year w/ no benefits. It would be impossible for one person to live on that. They would have to be supported by their parents or a husband to live on that.

Or they would have to be supported by a wife to live on that.

[Anonymous]

Wow, not the PP but can you point me in the direction that shows this fact? A vast, vast majority isn't an actual fact, it is your opinion. I would like to see the info on this. I volunteer in my children's school all the time and I have seen the ESOL classes and they are all hispanic kids with maybe 1-2 asian or middle eastern children. I don't believe this vast statement. I can also tell that most of the ESOL kids are also on FARMS eating breakfast every morning. And if you say that natural US born citizens include anchor babies, well that isn't natural. It is an illegal immigrant coming here to pop a baby out to reap the benefits from your tax dollars.

No, I do not have documentation. This information was given to ESOL teachers at a county-wide meeting, showing our students countries of origin. About 75-85% were born in the US. Whether you consider that "vast" is a matter of opinion. The ethnic makeup of one ESOL class has little to do with where the students were born. Everyone in that class could likely be a natural born citizen. You may not be aware of it, but Hispanic and Asian kids are born in this country too.

A natural-born citizen is someone who was born in this country, thus a citizen by birth. A naturalized citizen is one was born elsewhere and became a citizen. Again, deciding whether or not you consider it "natural" is another matter of opinion, but frankly, your opinion doesn't matter. "Anchor baby" or not, according to the law, they are as American as you are. Unless you were born someplace else... then they might be more American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Wow, not the PP but can you point me in the direction that shows this fact? A vast, vast majority isn't an actual fact, it is your opinion. I would like to see the info on this. I volunteer in my children's school all the time and I have seen the ESOL classes and they are all hispanic kids with maybe 1-2 asian or middle eastern children. I don't believe this vast statement. I can also tell that most of the ESOL kids are also on FARMS eating breakfast every morning. And if you say that natural US born citizens include anchor babies, well that isn't natural. It is an illegal immigrant coming here to pop a baby out to reap the benefits from your tax dollars.

No, I do not have documentation. This information was given to ESOL teachers at a county-wide meeting, showing our students countries of origin. About 75-85% were born in the US. Whether you consider that "vast" is a matter of opinion. The ethnic makeup of one ESOL class has little to do with where the students were born. Everyone in that class could likely be a natural born citizen. You may not be aware of it, but Hispanic and Asian kids are born in this country too.

A natural-born citizen is someone who was born in this country, thus a citizen by birth. A naturalized citizen is one was born elsewhere and became a citizen. Again, deciding whether or not you consider it "natural" is another matter of opinion, but frankly, your opinion doesn't matter. "Anchor baby" or not, according to the law, they are as American as you are. Unless you were born someplace else... then they might be more American.

What a pleasure knowing that xenophobes volunteer in the schools. Well Missy, bet you're clueless about the makeup of the illegal immigrant population that you think suckle off your massive teats.

How about a little pop quiz? What percentage of illegal immigrants living in the US crossed into the US illegally? Come on, give it a whirl! Hint...it's not 100%. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

I teach ESOL in a public school and with the exception of 7-8 of my students, the other 30 or so were born here in the U.S. Most of them are Hispanic but some are from India and Sri Lanka too. Everyone at our school gets a free breakfast and lunch too. My other ESOL teacher friends say appr. 75% of their students were born in the U.S. too. This country is a nation of immigrants. I believe my students will be something great one day. Nobody will care what country they were born in.