I am officially confused: JONBENET RAMSEY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jonbenet went missing and a ransom note was present. They searched the house and didn't find her. They later found her dead in a suitcase in the basement. There was evidence that someone probably tried to take her through the basement window, but the suitcase wouldn't fit. She was strangled with a ligature and had a skull fracture. There was DNA found on her underwear of a man that has yet to be identified.

There were no signs of forced entry, but it was later discovered that doors and a window may have been unlocked at the time. There is no evidence that implicates the parents had anything to do with it, but that didn't prevent dumbass police and media making suspicions sound factual.

I don't see the connection between the cases, other than they were both little white girls who were missing and found dead and their killers have not been convicted.

The parents were suspected because they're family members. The police really had no place making vague statements that hinted it was her parents.

she was found in a carpet, or maybe it was a towel... it wasn't a suitcase.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that's right, PP. She had fibers from the suitcase on her body and there was a suitcase under the broken window.

[Anonymous]

Wasn't the fact that the ransom note demanded an amount of money ($118K) that was the exact same amount of the father's bonus he had just gotten so very strange.

[Anonymous]

http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/

[Anonymous]

http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/

EXCERPT;

As you can see there is a lot of deception in this ransom note. The writer's own words tell us this ransom note was not written with the intent to obtain money. Since the ransom note was written as a ruse, we can conclude this was not a kidnapping that turned into a murder, but a murder made to look like a kidnapping. This means we cannot exclude the Ramseys as possible suspects. Let's look at what evidence ties John and Patsy Ramsey to the ransom note.


1. The ransom note was written on a pad of paper that was in the Ramsey's residence. Likewise, the pen that was used to write the note also came from their residence.

2. The killer placed a nylon cord made into a garrote around JonBenet's neck and strangled her. A broken paintbrush belonging to Patsy Ramsey was used to make the garrote.

3. While handwriting analysis shows that John Ramsey did not write the ransom note, Patsy Ramsey could not be completely eliminated as the writer.

4. Certain words in the ransom note such as "instruction" "monitor" "execution" "scanned" "electronic" and "device" are computer terms. At the time of JonBenet's death, John Ramsey was president of Access Graphics a computer distribution company.

5. The kidnapper demanded $118,000 from the Ramseys. This is a very unusual amount. Most people would ask for a much larger amount. There is a reason why the writer chose $118,000. Even John Ramsey agrees that the number 118 is significant to the killer. It has been reported that in 1996 John Ramsey received a bonus of $118,000. Is this a coincidence? When the writer had to think of a number, $118,000 was on his mind.
13. delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we
14. monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to
15. arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier
16. delivery pickup of your daughter.

6. In lines #13 - 16, the writer states, "If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier pickup of your daughter." The word "hence" is a formal way of saying "therefore." The writer starts out the ransom note misspelling words giving the appearance he is uneducated. However, his educational level begins to show when he uses words such as "hence."

The word "hence" is not a very common word. When was the last time you used that word in a sentence? Chances are you have not used it this week. We should look to see if this word appears in any writings of John or Patsy Ramsey. Well, it does. On December 14, 1997, the First United Methodist Church in Boulder, Colorado held a memorial service for JonBenet. In the program, there was "A Christmas Message from the Ramsey Family." This message was also posted on the Ramsey family's web site. In the message, we find the statement, "Had there been no birth of Christ, there would be no hope of eternal life, and, hence, no hope of ever being with our loved ones again."

[Anonymous]

too weird
children do not get abducted from their bedrooms without a sound by an intruder and then killed.
The few times that that has happened there has been a serial killer.
Too random, no motive, no similar crimes

Who would do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:too weird
children do not get abducted from their bedrooms without a sound by an intruder and then killed.
The few times that that has happened there has been a serial killer.
Too random, no motive, no similar crimes

Who would do that?

The guy who killed Polly Klaas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:too weird
children do not get abducted from their bedrooms without a sound by an intruder and then killed.
The few times that that has happened there has been a serial killer.
Too random, no motive, no similar crimes

Who would do that?

The Lindberg kidnapping and the pervert who abducted Elizabeth Smart, come to mind. Had it not been that E. Smart's little sister was in the same room and went to her parents to tell them what happened, the parents would not have known until the next day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So with the Casey Anthony case there have been alot of people brining up JonBenet Ramsey. I know the case it pretty much closed and they exonnerated the family from being suspects, but they still have no one who committed the crime. Personally I think the family had something to do with it because it all seemed so weird but who knows. The entire case was weird.

There is one poster that keeps freaking out about how people should know that it was not the family, but no one was ever caught. They have "unidentified male" DNA but thats it. That does not mean the family had nothing to do with it. Wasn't there a window broken out from the inside and no other traces of someone entering the home?

In any case, am I missing something here? Can someone clear up the facts or what happened?

Within the past week the man who abducted and murdered a child was found 56 years after the crime. People are murdered and their murderers are never found. The Ramsey's were exonerated and she died a few years ago. Stop blaming someone who can't defend herself. It is recommended that you get your facts straight before you mouth off.

You are a very unpleasant person. I asked questions about what happened and did not "mouth off" as you so rudely put it and I certainly did not blame anyone in particular. Please go bother someone else who wants to argue with you.

No, I'm not unpleasant, you just got caught with your pants down. It is easy to check your facts and when you are accusing someone of a horrible crime, at least say, "In my opinion..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So with the Casey Anthony case there have been alot of people brining up JonBenet Ramsey. I know the case it pretty much closed and they exonnerated the family from being suspects, but they still have no one who committed the crime. Personally I think the family had something to do with it because it all seemed so weird but who knows. The entire case was weird.

There is one poster that keeps freaking out about how people should know that it was not the family, but no one was ever caught. They have "unidentified male" DNA but thats it. That does not mean the family had nothing to do with it. Wasn't there a window broken out from the inside and no other traces of someone entering the home?

In any case, am I missing something here? Can someone clear up the facts or what happened?

Within the past week the man who abducted and murdered a child was found 56 years after the crime. People are murdered and their murderers are never found. The Ramsey's were exonerated and she died a few years ago. Stop blaming someone who can't defend herself. It is recommended that you get your facts straight before you mouth off.

You are a very unpleasant person. I asked questions about what happened and did not "mouth off" as you so rudely put it and I certainly did not blame anyone in particular. Please go bother someone else who wants to argue with you.

Ha you really are illiterate arent you? Please tell me where I accused someone of killing her? I said I thought the family had something to do with it...not one person in general.

Either you cannot read (in which case I feel bad for you) or you have some mental problems you need to work out for yourself.

No, I'm not unpleasant, you just got caught with your pants down. It is easy to check your facts and when you are accusing someone of a horrible crime, at least say, "In my opinion..."

[Anonymous]

No, I'm not unpleasant, you just got caught with your pants down. It is easy to check your facts and when you are accusing someone of a horrible crime, at least say, "In my opinion..."


Silliness. Yes it's you - not the OP.

[Anonymous]

Too many responses...this is for you 18:44.

This is a serious question...are you illiterate? Please tell me where in my post I accused someone of killing her? I said I thought the family had something to do with it...not one person in general.

Either you cannot read (in which case I feel bad for you) or you have some mental problems you need to work out for yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/

EXCERPT;

As you can see there is a lot of deception in this ransom note. The writer's own words tell us this ransom note was not written with the intent to obtain money. Since the ransom note was written as a ruse, we can conclude this was not a kidnapping that turned into a murder, but a murder made to look like a kidnapping. This means we cannot exclude the Ramseys as possible suspects. Let's look at what evidence ties John and Patsy Ramsey to the ransom note.


1. The ransom note was written on a pad of paper that was in the Ramsey's residence. Likewise, the pen that was used to write the note also came from their residence.

2. The killer placed a nylon cord made into a garrote around JonBenet's neck and strangled her. A broken paintbrush belonging to Patsy Ramsey was used to make the garrote.

3. While handwriting analysis shows that John Ramsey did not write the ransom note, Patsy Ramsey could not be completely eliminated as the writer.

4. Certain words in the ransom note such as "instruction" "monitor" "execution" "scanned" "electronic" and "device" are computer terms. At the time of JonBenet's death, John Ramsey was president of Access Graphics a computer distribution company.

5. The kidnapper demanded $118,000 from the Ramseys. This is a very unusual amount. Most people would ask for a much larger amount. There is a reason why the writer chose $118,000. Even John Ramsey agrees that the number 118 is significant to the killer. It has been reported that in 1996 John Ramsey received a bonus of $118,000. Is this a coincidence? When the writer had to think of a number, $118,000 was on his mind.
13. delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we
14. monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to
15. arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier
16. delivery pickup of your daughter.

6. In lines #13 - 16, the writer states, "If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a earlier pickup of your daughter." The word "hence" is a formal way of saying "therefore." The writer starts out the ransom note misspelling words giving the appearance he is uneducated. However, his educational level begins to show when he uses words such as "hence."

The word "hence" is not a very common word. When was the last time you used that word in a sentence? Chances are you have not used it this week. We should look to see if this word appears in any writings of John or Patsy Ramsey. Well, it does. On December 14, 1997, the First United Methodist Church in Boulder, Colorado held a memorial service for JonBenet. In the program, there was "A Christmas Message from the Ramsey Family." This message was also posted on the Ramsey family's web site. In the message, we find the statement, "Had there been no birth of Christ, there would be no hope of eternal life, and, hence, no hope of ever being with our loved ones again."

I didn't follow this case that closely, but one major clue left out here was the DNA of an unidentified man, not the brother or father, that was found. I guess Ramsey could have hired someone. The thing about 118K - if Ramsey was so successful and head of a company, why he would pick that number that could be so easily linked to him? I wonder if it was someone who worked for his company or something. Just seems silly to have picked that number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:too weird
children do not get abducted from their bedrooms without a sound by an intruder and then killed.
The few times that that has happened there has been a serial killer.
Too random, no motive, no similar crimes

Who would do that?

I woke up with an intruder in my bed when I was a child. I fought and then scared him off by screaming. The other 4 people in my house were asleep until I ran and banged on their bedroom doors. I will never know what his intentions were for that night, but I can assure you they weren't good. It does happen, even if only rarely. It was rather random. I'd never met the guy before that night.

Do you really want the answer to who would do that? You want his name or will you settle for my description of a "sick mother fucker"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:too weird
children do not get abducted from their bedrooms without a sound by an intruder and then killed.
The few times that that has happened there has been a serial killer.
Too random, no motive, no similar crimes

Who would do that?

I woke up with an intruder in my bed when I was a child. I fought and then scared him off by screaming. The other 4 people in my house were asleep until I ran and banged on their bedroom doors. I will never know what his intentions were for that night, but I can assure you they weren't good. It does happen, even if only rarely. It was rather random. I'd never met the guy before that night.

Do you really want the answer to who would do that? You want his name or will you settle for my description of a "sick mother fucker"?

good post!