Ten signs you may be too old to have another baby - Zsa Zsa Gabor

[Anonymous]

a 60 married to a 90 yo person is gross to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:a 60 married to a 90 yo person is gross to begin with.

Tell that to all the guys in their 60's who want to date and marry women in their 30's, plus all the younger women who want to marry an older guy with money!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is kinda funny. Gross and sad is to see women in their 40's doing the same thing.

They should go ahead and adopt an older child instead of trying to put their bodies through something nature didn't intend to them.

PP,

Doesn't Alabama have its own version of DCUM?

Aren't you nice?! Let me guess . . . you're someone who prides yourself on your tolerance towards others and lack of closed-mindedness, but it's absolutely fine to "slam" southerners in your little analogy. Why don't you take a good, hard look at yourself?

NP. I'm from Alabama. and I thought this joke was kind of funny. Then again, I'm used to Alabama jokes.

My grandmother had her two children when she was 40 and 44, in the 1940s. She wanted to have a career before getting married, having children. She lived to be 92. She was still mowing her own lawn, walking 2 miles to the grocery store, and giving out her many opinions well into her 80s. My mom was in her 50s when she died. I was in my 20s.

Maybe an old adage applies here: You are only as old as you feel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is kinda funny. Gross and sad is to see women in their 40's doing the same thing.

They should go ahead and adopt an older child instead of trying to put their bodies through something nature didn't intend to them.

PP,

Doesn't Alabama have its own version of DCUM?

Lol. +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:a 60 married to a 90 yo person is gross to begin with.

Why? Older people deserve to be happy too. You will be there sooner than you think, harpie.

[Anonymous]

zsa zsa's husband is a blatant racist too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is kinda funny. Gross and sad is to see women in their 40's doing the same thing.

They should go ahead and adopt an older child instead of trying to put their bodies through something nature didn't intend to them.

Women in their 40s get pregnant all the time -- and that is nothing new. The only thing that's new is women having their first child in their 40s. So nothing biologically wrong with it or unnatural about having a child in your 40s. Seems like it would be a huge blessing. Too bad you are so shriveled up and bitter no matter what age you actually are, PP.

Sorry that is not even new. My mom had her first child in 1957, age 40, second child, age 41.
More women are having children later, but it is not a new phenomenon. My fathers's mother got married at at 39 and had 3 children and her third child was born in 1911. I think that is 100 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is kinda funny. Gross and sad is to see women in their 40's doing the same thing.

They should go ahead and adopt an older child instead of trying to put their bodies through something nature didn't intend to them.

Women in their 40s get pregnant all the time -- and that is nothing new. The only thing that's new is women having their first child in their 40s. So nothing biologically wrong with it or unnatural about having a child in your 40s. Seems like it would be a huge blessing. Too bad you are so shriveled up and bitter no matter what age you actually are, PP.

Sorry that is not even new. My mom had her first child in 1957, age 40, second child, age 41.
More women are having children later, but it is not a new phenomenon. My fathers's mother got married at at 39 and had 3 children and her third child was born in 1911. I think that is 100 years ago.

I'm not talking about individual examples. I think we can all agree that women in general are giving birth later in life now than they were 100 years ago, right? The statistics show that the number of women giving birth in their 40s has not changed; only the number of women giving birth for the first time in their 40s has changed.

[Anonymous]

When I had my last child at age 41, my OB asked if I wanted to have my tubes tied during the c-section. She said that, next to teenagers, she has the most patients in their 40s with unexpected pregnancies. Women in their 40s think they're safe to go off birth control, and it just isn't the case.

[Anonymous]

I had a baby in my 40s with no expense and no help. I spent no time on bedrest and had an easy labor. When my mom had me in her 40s, I was called a change of life baby. Oh and by the by, my grand also had a baby at 40.

[Anonymous]

I love it when idiots ask me if I ever considered adoption. No, I went through the fun and expense of IVF because I just DIDN't want to give a home to an existing child.

1). Domestic adoptions are mostly open, couples have to be chosen, and you run the risk and heartbreak of a last-minute change of heart. (It has happened to two friends who had already endured a lot in their effort to be mothers). We had two knocks against us -- my husband was in his 40s when we started all this (couples in their 30s were preferred) and we already had one child.

2) There are millions of children worldwide who need families. They are not available for international adoption for reasons that are specific to each country. Believe me, I tried. I was willing to adopt a child up to 4 with medical needs from any country that would have me. You have to choose one country at a time (and give up being on a domestic wait-list), go through what can be 2-3 years of hurdles, and then have adotions from that country frozen -- it happened for us with Guatemala, Russia, and Ethopia.

3) After years of expense and disappointment and paying adoption agencies who NEVER gave me the true story, a social worker took pity on me. By that time, my husband had hit age 50. The woman said "you aren't going to adopt unless you go through the foster child program." And, of course, a foster parent bonds with that child not knowing whether or not they'll eventually be able to adopt.

For all these reasons, it is really wrong to make assumptioins and judge a women who chooses fertility treatments. Just be glad it isn't you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love it when idiots ask me if I ever considered adoption. No, I went through the fun and expense of IVF because I just DIDN't want to give a home to an existing child.

1). Domestic adoptions are mostly open, couples have to be chosen, and you run the risk and heartbreak of a last-minute change of heart. (It has happened to two friends who had already endured a lot in their effort to be mothers). We had two knocks against us -- my husband was in his 40s when we started all this (couples in their 30s were preferred) and we already had one child.

2) There are millions of children worldwide who need families. They are not available for international adoption for reasons that are specific to each country. Believe me, I tried. I was willing to adopt a child up to 4 with medical needs from any country that would have me. You have to choose one country at a time (and give up being on a domestic wait-list), go through what can be 2-3 years of hurdles, and then have adotions from that country frozen -- it happened for us with Guatemala, Russia, and Ethopia.

3) After years of expense and disappointment and paying adoption agencies who NEVER gave me the true story, a social worker took pity on me. By that time, my husband had hit age 50. The woman said "you aren't going to adopt unless you go through the foster child program." And, of course, a foster parent bonds with that child not knowing whether or not they'll eventually be able to adopt.

Thank you for this post. I was once one of those juvenile people who thought parents seeking fertility treatments should just adopt. Posts like yours are very enlightening for people with that mindset.

For all these reasons, it is really wrong to make assumptioins and judge a women who chooses fertility treatments. Just be glad it isn't you.

[Anonymous]

I adopted a healthy infant at age 50, so it is possible! My adoption was international, but I know several single women my age who have recently been chosen by birthmothers in the US to adopt their newborns as well. Despite the statistics, people are regularly doing it successfully. I can't imagine being happier than with the baby that ended up joining our family. The key is choosing the right agency (good success rate), and for international, finding one that specializes in the country you are interested in (which you can find out by joining the country-specific yahoo groups and learning from others).

The story above sounds like a joke. I already feel like 50 is selfish to have an infant (in terms of how young my child will be when I likely die, not being able to share more of life with her as she grows). Can't imagine doing this in good conscience at 67.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I adopted a healthy infant at age 50, so it is possible! My adoption was international, but I know several single women my age who have recently been chosen by birthmothers in the US to adopt their newborns as well. Despite the statistics, people are regularly doing it successfully. I can't imagine being happier than with the baby that ended up joining our family. The key is choosing the right agency (good success rate), and for international, finding one that specializes in the country you are interested in (which you can find out by joining the country-specific yahoo groups and learning from others).

The story above sounds like a joke. I already feel like 50 is selfish to have an infant (in terms of how young my child will be when I likely die, not being able to share more of life with her as she grows). Can't imagine doing this in good conscience at 67.

I'm glad adoption worked for you. I'd love to know which country allowed you to adopt an infant at that age. To my knowledge there are only 3 that would even consider it, and then you'd be put in a long line behind younger parents.

I think that timing has a lot to do with it. We were going through this effort right after the Hague Convention, and it was a stop and start process with each country that we tried. All kinds of random things affected the suspensions of international adoptions -- the publicized death of an adopted child from one country, diplomatic tensions between another country and the US, a rebellion in Ethiopia. We finally turned to IVF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I adopted a healthy infant at age 50, so it is possible! My adoption was international, but I know several single women my age who have recently been chosen by birthmothers in the US to adopt their newborns as well. Despite the statistics, people are regularly doing it successfully. I can't imagine being happier than with the baby that ended up joining our family. The key is choosing the right agency (good success rate), and for international, finding one that specializes in the country you are interested in (which you can find out by joining the country-specific yahoo groups and learning from others).

The story above sounds like a joke. I already feel like 50 is selfish to have an infant (in terms of how young my child will be when I likely die, not being able to share more of life with her as she grows). Can't imagine doing this in good conscience at 67.

I'm glad adoption worked for you. I'd love to know which country allowed you to adopt an infant at that age. To my knowledge there are only 3 that would even consider it, and then you'd be put in a long line behind younger parents.

I think that timing has a lot to do with it. We were going through this effort right after the Hague Convention, and it was a stop and start process with each country that we tried. All kinds of random things affected the suspensions of international adoptions -- the publicized death of an adopted child from one country, diplomatic tensions between another country and the US, a rebellion in Ethiopia. We finally turned to IVF.

The poster doesn't say when she adopted but the countries open to "older" adopters were/are Russia, Kazakhstan, China, Guatemala, Haiti, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and I believe Ukraine

There was no "long line behind younger parents" in the past or right now. It all depends on your agency and their connections and how many referrals they have and how many other waiting parents they have regardless of those waiting parents ages.

International adoption several years ago was much easier and there were many relatively healthy children who came home.

Domestic adoption - there are no age limits BUT agencies often tell parents this more as an excuse than anything else. Its usually the parameters of the child they are requesting that doesn't fit what the agency can provide. Most domestic agencies require parents to be very flexible in terms of race and drug and alcohol usage by the birthomther. I actually find the practices of domestic adoption to be a much more shady affair than international adoption.