Kids can't play on the lawn - are you kidding?!

Anonymous
^^ Somebody sounds like he/she is aching for children
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it's in the condo rules, then this *is* the place people move who don't want to hear/see kids playing.


Condo owner here--- EXACTLY!!! I do not want to hear your kids playing. I'm single and like to sleep in, take naps, and enjoy my nice green grass. This is one of the benefits of living the single life, my freedom, peace and quiet. Why would I want to listen to your kids? Take your kids to a park! I'm grateful for these rules because screaming kids 'playing' may be cute to you, but I guarantee it doesn't sound like violins and chirping birds to the rest of us.


When I was in my early 20s I lived in an apartment building near an elementary school. Every day at recess i could hear the kids screaming and playing. I thought it was wonderful. I remember one of my neighbors complaining about the noise and saying she looked forward to moving. I thought that was SO ODD to not enjoy that sound. I was single and young and freedom-loving and fun then and everything....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ Somebody sounds like he/she is aching for children


I absolutely 100% do not want children. I see how my friends have changed and I like my freedom. I've never wanted to have children, and I don't want to live in a building and listen to yours make noise either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it's in the condo rules, then this *is* the place people move who don't want to hear/see kids playing.


Condo owner here--- EXACTLY!!! I do not want to hear your kids playing. I'm single and like to sleep in, take naps, and enjoy my nice green grass. This is one of the benefits of living the single life, my freedom, peace and quiet. Why would I want to listen to your kids? Take your kids to a park! I'm grateful for these rules because screaming kids 'playing' may be cute to you, but I guarantee it doesn't sound like violins and chirping birds to the rest of us.


When I was in my early 20s I lived in an apartment building near an elementary school. Every day at recess i could hear the kids screaming and playing. I thought it was wonderful. I remember one of my neighbors complaining about the noise and saying she looked forward to moving. I thought that was SO ODD to not enjoy that sound. I was single and young and freedom-loving and fun then and everything....


Let me guess, PP, are you also the breast feeding police? People like you bore me.
Anonymous
What are the condo rules, OP? Do you have a copy of them? If not, get a copy. It's possible that they are misquoting them or that they are overstating them. Or that there is wiggle room in the rule -- i.e., certain hours, communal space. Know your rights.
Anonymous
For those who have said if people don't want to live with children around should move to adults only communities, believe me when I tell you that there are many of us who like kids but would prefer not to live around them. However, it is against federal housing law to have "adult only" communities EXCEPT for over-55 places. And you have parents to thank for that. Until the 80s there were plenty of "adult only" apartment complexes, condos, etc but parents saw how how lovely these communities were with all the amenities and started freaking out, demanding that they be allowed to live anywhere they wanted, their kids were being discriminated against etc. and over time it became a violation of law to not allow children into communities (except, again, over 55). So, yeah, don't blame those who want to live in a child-free community, blame the parents who made sure they can't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ Somebody sounds like he/she is aching for children


I absolutely 100% do not want children. I see how my friends have changed and I like my freedom. I've never wanted to have children, and I don't want to live in a building and listen to yours make noise either.


Then why are you on a parenting message board?

Also, why live in a condo? You run the risk of sharing walls/floors/ceilings with whomever chooses to move in near you, and those people might have kids, or a dog, or just be loud a-holes themselves? If you REALLY don't want to hear anyone else, ever, you should live far out on a large lot.
Anonymous
Actually (and this is not the pp you are quoting) I do not have kids and I am on here. Its not just a site for moms and dads. Sooooo......let her have an opinion.
Anonymous
I don't have any kids either but it would be weird to be one here if you hate kids to the point that hearing them is like knives to your heart.

PP sounds like a grump. I don't like hearing bad kids playing, screaming, or fighting with each other outside, but normal kid noises are cool. I like hearing them have fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't have any kids either but it would be weird to be one here if you hate kids to the point that hearing them is like knives to your heart.

PP sounds like a grump. I don't like hearing bad kids playing, screaming, or fighting with each other outside, but normal kid noises are cool. I like hearing them have fun.


Yeah I agree with you. But all I know is the ones who scream and run down the hallways thats when I get anoyed (live in a condo with DH and pup). If kids are playing nicely outside thats fine but its when they start to get insane without parents watching them and/ or parents are not asking them to play without disrupting everyone around them is the problem
Anonymous
OP - did you read the condo rules BEFORE you signed the lease?
Anonymous
OK, that totally sucks. Especially if that rule was not made clear when you bought (or rented). My guess is that there is some very vague rule that is only enforced when someone complains.

That being said, I remember my life before kids, and I admit it - i would have been annoyed at kids playing right outside my window. I didn't find the shrill high-pitch laughter of kids to be something that reminded me I was alive. I found it annoying. Now that I have a kid, somehow my ears and brain have adjust to hear the noise as potential playdates.

Are there monthly meetings? If so, you could be pro-active, gather the parents, and attend togethor. Make a case for the need for kids to play. You can probably find some research supporting the need for kids to be outdoors. Don't attack the other side. You need to accept that the other residents have their own opinions and they need to be valued as well. But try to get to the real problem. Is it noise? Certain times of day? Or is it the lawn? And then maybe you can reach a compromise. Maybe there is one area of the lawn that they could play on. Or play restricted hours. Or maybe they area is closed from time to to time for lawn maintenance.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For those who have said if people don't want to live with children around should move to adults only communities, believe me when I tell you that there are many of us who like kids but would prefer not to live around them. However, it is against federal housing law to have "adult only" communities EXCEPT for over-55 places. And you have parents to thank for that. Until the 80s there were plenty of "adult only" apartment complexes, condos, etc but parents saw how how lovely these communities were with all the amenities and started freaking out, demanding that they be allowed to live anywhere they wanted, their kids were being discriminated against etc. and over time it became a violation of law to not allow children into communities (except, again, over 55). So, yeah, don't blame those who want to live in a child-free community, blame the parents who made sure they can't.


Actually, I worked on policy at the time, and you have it wrong. The problem was that owners of complexes were rapidly trying to go to "adults only" rules, because they believed that barring kids would make maintenance cheaper. As a result, families were finding that they had NO affordable options - houses were too expensive, and apartments were all "adults only". The law was changed to ensure that families could find affordable places to live.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have any kids either but it would be weird to be one here if you hate kids to the point that hearing them is like knives to your heart.

PP sounds like a grump. I don't like hearing bad kids playing, screaming, or fighting with each other outside, but normal kid noises are cool. I like hearing them have fun.


Yeah I agree with you. But all I know is the ones who scream and run down the hallways thats when I get anoyed (live in a condo with DH and pup). If kids are playing nicely outside thats fine but its when they start to get insane without parents watching them and/ or parents are not asking them to play without disrupting everyone around them is the problem


Oh, okay. We have some of those around here, too. I hate those little hoodlums because they are so nasty to each other and everyone else, but I know their parents are to blame. Problem is, their parents are never watching them so I don't know *who* the parents are!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have any kids either but it would be weird to be one here if you hate kids to the point that hearing them is like knives to your heart.

PP sounds like a grump. I don't like hearing bad kids playing, screaming, or fighting with each other outside, but normal kid noises are cool. I like hearing them have fun.


Yeah I agree with you. But all I know is the ones who scream and run down the hallways thats when I get anoyed (live in a condo with DH and pup). If kids are playing nicely outside thats fine but its when they start to get insane without parents watching them and/ or parents are not asking them to play without disrupting everyone around them is the problem


Oh, okay. We have some of those around here, too. I hate those little hoodlums because they are so nasty to each other and everyone else, but I know their parents are to blame. Problem is, their parents are never watching them so I don't know *who* the parents are!


I was not sure if you were responding to me "yeah I agree with you..." or the PP who said she never wanted kids, that was not me. I did not know if you had called me a grump
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