Did your Beauvoir ADHD kid get into STA / NCS?

[Anonymous]

I suspect it's a epigenetic or socio-genetic phenomenon that explains the epidemic of ADHD in America. Much like tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy in the 80's and 90's, obesity surgery, cosmetic surgery for "disease" (face lifts and breast adjustments). Has anyone checked out the top ten list of the most prescribed drugs in America or the top ten list of drugs raking in the most dollars? How many of these drugs treat a known and well described disease?

Americans yearn the drive-by (Macdonald's service window) quick-fix, quick explanation approach to rationalise why little Johnny or Jessie isn't WPSSI perfect (ninety nine point niner). A 17 % prevalence of ADHD is perfect rationale for accommodation testing benefits and more system gaming and yet feeds the insatiable appetite of our capitalistic industrial complex.

These ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressant pill poppers of the next generation.

[Anonymous]

...must maintain a robust pipeline between bubbles for economic health

[Anonymous]

You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

My child doesn't have ADHD, but I wanted to add my support, well said!

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The implication is that AA kids with ADHD are rejected by STA; however, non-minority kids with ADHD have a pretty good shot of getting accepted to STA. I have no idea if the scenario that PP described is accurate, but it seems like that is why he/she mentioned race.

[quote=Anonymous]What does their race have to do with the OP's question?[/quote][/quote]


I'm 20:27 and that was our observation when their rejections occurred. Their moms felt that Beauvoir didn't advocate for either boys during the STA admissions process. At Beauvoir, their classroom behavior was on par with other highly-active boys. And, there wasn't issue with low test scores/grades. [/quote]

Sorry , but Beauvoir must have advocated for them or they would not have gotten into Landon, right?
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I said during the STA admissions process.

[Anonymous]

10:51

Very well said. I also have an ADHD child who is also not on Ritalin and not on a stimulant. It actually made things worse.Every course of medication and intervention has to be very specific for each child. It is not a case of one size fits all. There are many dimensions and many variances in how mild or severe each case is.

In our experience, the doctor required significant testing both psychological, educational and physical before any medication was prescribed. We also were doing therapy before medication.

I am sure there are some unethical doctors who will prescribe easily but everyone I know wiht an ADHD child has done lots of testing before going the medical route.

In addition we also still do therapy, tutoring and a social skills group. It has worked out very well for my DC.

[Anonymous]

Tell me more about the social skills group.

[Anonymous]

We use Expressive Therapy. It is a group of boys or girls who get together once a week to help with social interactions such as negotiation, problem solving etc in a fun and relaxed way. They play games, do activities etc. We have found it helped.

There are other programs out there.

[Anonymous]

You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

Hey smartee pants. Do you actually believe that 17 percent of children are like your children and should be medicated with ritalin or other ADHD pharmacologic therapy? I think not!

[Anonymous]

You think not? I have no idea if the 17% figure means anything but I do know your "thinking" is not particularly scientific. I do have to wonder why you are so worked up about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

Hey smartee pants. Do you actually believe that 17 percent of children are like your children and should be medicated with ritalin or other ADHD pharmacologic therapy? I think not!

Not the smartee pants--but where did you get 17%. I did a quick search in a scientific literature database and the highest number was 8.7%. What is your agenda? I don't have a kid with ADHD, so I have no agenda in reporting accurate statistics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

Please take a breath and don't lump every poster asking questions about this into a "you are ignorant pot" You seem very versed in ADHD, what do you make of the fact that no other industrialized , modern countries are seeing these rates ( 17% boys) ? Any scientist or physician would be VERY interested in getting a handle on any "disease" that was doubling or even tripling its incidence inside of 10 years. I don't think its true that 20 years ago or 50 years ago even 17% of the population couldn't sit still, couldn't do their work and constantly interrupted others though I know elementary teachers in DCPS who say a third of their class is like this but that is due to emotional disturbance, chaotic life at home, etc..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

Hey smartee pants. Do you actually believe that 17 percent of children are like your children and should be medicated with ritalin or other ADHD pharmacologic therapy? I think not!

Not the smartee pants--but where did you get 17%. I did a quick search in a scientific literature database and the highest number was 8.7%. What is your agenda? I don't have a kid with ADHD, so I have no agenda in reporting accurate statistics.

Just google Ritalin use in NOVA. 8% percent is the National average, but since this blog is called "DC URBAN MOMS" ( with guests form NOVA) I thought I'd give the local data. You can also just ask your pediatrician, provided he/she is not too chummy with the pharmaceutical rep., and they will tell you the truth. Doubly so if they have been in practice 30-40 years and have watched this trend before their very eyes.

[Anonymous]

Ritalin is not the only medication prescribed for ADHD in this country. When you include other drug therapy -- including combination therapy--this is pure and simple malpractice with much gain (including economic) for all stakeholders -- children's parents and their school.

America is indeed unique. We live in a country that by far enjoys an epidemic of soaring litigation (law suits) as well as ADHD children. Clearly, Americans (individuals and children) must be genetically and environmentally rather disctinct and unique in comparison to other so-called citizens of developed countries -- including those, a stone's throw, from our northern border in Canada. Perhaps, American lawyers, pediatricians, psychologists and psychiatrists are the finest expert diagnosticians on earth.

Kids, keep on popping pills and growing obese. Maybe increased activity and exercise is the simple therapeutic solution in most of these cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are all ignorant of what ADHD actually is and BTW, the ritalin drugs are not the only ones prescribed. Both of my kids have ADHD and are not taking ritalin drugs, they are taking drugs that are not stimulants and wouldn't do a thing for people who don't have ADHD. These drugs allow them to function in the classroom, and have made them happier, more secure children as a result.

Obviously, you don't remember the bad old days before we recognized this was a medical disorder, when people with ADHD were labeled dumb or bad. Those struggling kids became struggling adults and I will not allow that to happen to my children.

And for those of you who smugly assert that "ADHD ritalin babies will be the anti-depressent pill poppers of the next generation," aside from the ignorant insulting of that phrase, it is also in direct opposition to the research. Teenagers with UNTREATED ADHD have elevated rates of substance abuse problems. This has been demonstrated over and over again in study after study. If you don't treat these kids, they self-medicate. If you're honest with yourself and think back to your younger days, you almost certainly knew kids like that. Excuse me, but I want something better for my children.

Hey smartee pants. Do you actually believe that 17 percent of children are like your children and should be medicated with ritalin or other ADHD pharmacologic therapy? I think not!

Not the smartee pants--but where did you get 17%. I did a quick search in a scientific literature database and the highest number was 8.7%. What is your agenda? I don't have a kid with ADHD, so I have no agenda in reporting accurate statistics.

Just google Ritalin use in NOVA. 8% percent is the National average, but since this blog is called "DC URBAN MOMS" ( with guests form NOVA) I thought I'd give the local data. You can also just ask your pediatrician, provided he/she is not too chummy with the pharmaceutical rep., and they will tell you the truth. Doubly so if they have been in practice 30-40 years and have watched this trend before their very eyes.

Why do you think the rate is 17% in NOVA? Would it also be higher than the national average in NYC, Montgomery County? Again, I have no personal stake in this argument but I am curious after watching Frontline: The Medicated Child on Netflix.