43 and BFP

[Anonymous]

Clinics don't earn profits from the drugs need for regular IVF -- so I'm not following this logic. Actually, the opposite seems to be true: if more cycles are needed for natural cycle to work (at 10-12% success rate per cycle), then clinics make more from doing multiple procedures for "natural" cycles. AND the women patients take the risk of multiple procedures w/ anesthesia, hormonal support during multiple 2WW, etc.

[Anonymous]

Drugs???? A natural IVF cycle out of pocket is around $4000 and an out of pocket at SG is $10,000. With insurance, DF bills insurance about $8000 and you can do a cycle at SG for less than that amount depending on your insurance provider. Since most women don't have insurance, the $4000 and $10,000 amounts are what we pay respectively.

You have slightly less monitoring with a natural cycle, but you still have ER and ET. And, the embryology lab has to do all of the same work. Why use those resources on one egg when they can be working with ten for the same single patient? And, those multiple eggs are likely to produce better stats for the clinic, which brings more patients, which makes more money. Let's not keep beating a dead horse. Natural cycle IVF is a niche play for DF - they don't offer it to all patients because 1) most patients have better odds with regular IVF and 2) they don't make as much money. And, other clinics don't want/need a niche or they already have one for something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CCRM and Cornell, two of the leading clinics in this country, don't do natural cycle IVF. In fact, they rarely, if ever, do low stim IVF. Natural cycle is the right option for a small number of people and the larger clinics are focused on what works for a large population of people, which is high stims that potentially produce a larger number of eggs.

Fair enough. But if you're one of the "small number of people" who are a good fit for Natural Cycle, it's an incredible option. It worked for me on the first try, and I'm so grateful, both for the reduced cost and the surprisingly manageable process!

Going back to OP, CONGRATULATIONS and good luck!!! I'm so happy for you!!

[Anonymous]

I had a bad reaction to Lupron so I was glad DF offered natural cycle FET, I don't understand why bigger clinics are opposed to this option. I can understand only offering stimulated IVF, but why does everyone have to be regulated just for their scheduling purposes?

[Anonymous]

Regulation isn't only about scheduling. It's also about regulating hormones to optimize response to stimulation drugs. There are many protocols out there - some with regulation and some not.

[Anonymous]

Regulation of one;s cycle is not medically needed in someone that has normal cycles doing a FET, large clinics do it so they can manipulate their schedule not because it optimizes chances of success. It seems that larger clinics have to follow a one size fit all MO.

[Anonymous]

FET is a totally different story than a stimulated or natural cycle IVF.