Growing Langley HS, Shrinking McLean HS - Questions for Community

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

This is a straw man argument based on something you saw on Nextdoor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

This is a straw man argument based on something you saw on Nextdoor

The same people have been very vocal on the FairFACTS Matters facebook group about the redistricting

[Anonymous]

The less outside the beltway riff raff, the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

What school are your kids zoned for?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

DP. When you say "they," you are talking about one, maybe two very vocal people - yet you continue to smear an entire community. I assure you, 99.9999% of Langley families do.not.care. who goes to Skyview and aren't interested in weighing in on it at all. Please correct your assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

This is a straw man argument based on something you saw on Nextdoor

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

This is a straw man argument based on something you saw on Nextdoor

+100

These were not nameless people. And, there was an organized effort. But you know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

This is a straw man argument based on something you saw on Nextdoor

+100

These were not nameless people. And, there was an organized effort. But you know that.

Ok, but you are pretending that there is some concerted effort on behalf of all these families, rather than one or two people pushing for it.

I’m sure I could find some racist post from someone in your area on Nextdoor, should I then call everyone in your area a nazi?

As the other poster said, the vast majority of Langley families do not concern ourselves with skyview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has decided to move more McLean kids to Langley (Spring Hill ES) starting this fall, in addition to those moved (Colvin Run ES) a few years ago.

Questions for Langley Families:

1. Are you excited about Langley being able to offer more courses and electives with additional kids and/or having even stronger athletics and extra-curricular programs? [b]I am agnostic. Maybe the increased enrollment will lead to new electives? I have no idea. Langley has pretty decent electives now. My bigger concern is that my rising junior will likely not be able to get a parking pass because there will be more seniors at a Langley to take up the spots.

2. Are you worried that the additional kids increase the likelihood of some Langley neighborhoods getting moved to other schools (e.g., Madison, South Lakes, Herndon) in a few years? This does not concern me right now (we love closer in). That said, we are looking for a larger house further west in Great falls (we love in a small rancher closer in) that could potentially be subjected to a boundary change in the future, but this still does not concern us as we feel the types of properties we are looking at (not mansions, but homes on 1-5 acre lots) will not drastically decrease in price if the boundary changed. Maybe if we were buying a mansion, we would be concerned about property values; however, I know that there are plenty of homes in Herndon that are bigger and more expensive than our existing home.

Questions for McLean Families:

1. Are you pleased that the school will be less crowded and that it will be easier for kids to make athletic teams or participate in extra-curricular activities?

2. Are you worried that the declining enrollment will lead to a significant loss of teachers and electives over the coming years?

Question for Both Langley/McLean Families:

1. Did you feel like the relevant School Board members (especially Robyn Lady, Karl Frisch, and Melanie Meren) engaged in sufficient outreach with your communities before changing the boundaries again? Yes.

2. If not, what would you have liked for them to have done instead?

Please keep the comments respectful of both schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has decided to move more McLean kids to Langley (Spring Hill ES) starting this fall, in addition to those moved (Colvin Run ES) a few years ago.

Questions for Langley Families:

1. Are you excited about Langley being able to offer more courses and electives with additional kids and/or having even stronger athletics and extra-curricular programs? I am agnostic. Maybe the increased enrollment will lead to new electives? I have no idea. Langley has pretty decent electives now. My bigger concern is that my rising junior will likely not be able to get a parking pass because there will be more seniors at a Langley to take up the spots.

2. Are you worried that the additional kids increase the likelihood of some Langley neighborhoods getting moved to other schools (e.g., Madison, South Lakes, Herndon) in a few years? This does not concern me right now (we love closer in). That said, we are looking for a larger house further west in Great falls (we love in a small rancher closer in) that could potentially be subjected to a boundary change in the future, but this still does not concern us as we feel the types of properties we are looking at (not mansions, but homes on 1-5 acre lots) will not drastically decrease in price if the boundary changed. Maybe if we were buying a mansion, we would be concerned about property values; however, I know that there are plenty of homes in Herndon that are bigger and more expensive than our existing home.

Questions for McLean Families:

1. Are you pleased that the school will be less crowded and that it will be easier for kids to make athletic teams or participate in extra-curricular activities?

2. Are you worried that the declining enrollment will lead to a significant loss of teachers and electives over the coming years?

Question for Both Langley/McLean Families:

1. Did you feel like the relevant School Board members (especially Robyn Lady, Karl Frisch, and Melanie Meren) engaged in sufficient outreach with your communities before changing the boundaries again? Yes.

2. If not, what would you have liked for them to have done instead?

Please keep the comments respectful of both schools.