Growing Langley HS, Shrinking McLean HS - Questions for Community

[Anonymous]

FCPS has decided to move more McLean kids to Langley (Spring Hill ES) starting this fall, in addition to those moved (Colvin Run ES) a few years ago.

Questions for Langley Families:

1. Are you excited about Langley being able to offer more courses and electives with additional kids and/or having even stronger athletics and extra-curricular programs?

2. Are you worried that the additional kids increase the likelihood of some Langley neighborhoods getting moved to other schools (e.g., Madison, South Lakes, Herndon) in a few years?

Questions for McLean Families:

1. Are you pleased that the school will be less crowded and that it will be easier for kids to make athletic teams or participate in extra-curricular activities?

2. Are you worried that the declining enrollment will lead to a significant loss of teachers and electives over the coming years?

Question for Both Langley/McLean Families:

1. Did you feel like the relevant School Board members (especially Robyn Lady, Karl Frisch, and Melanie Meren) engaged in sufficient outreach with your communities before changing the boundaries again?

2. If not, what would you have liked for them to have done instead?

Please keep the comments respectful of both schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Please keep the comments respectful of both schools.

Well that’s no fun.

[Anonymous]

McLean parent here. We are, and have been for a while, over-enrolled so realigning to a nearby under enrolled high school makes total sense. Even better that it is also a high performing high school. My guess is that we will still be at capacity or even still a little over enrolled so I'm not worried about losing teachers or classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has decided to move more McLean kids to Langley (Spring Hill ES) starting this fall, in addition to those moved (Colvin Run ES) a few years ago.

Questions for Langley Families:

1. Are you excited about Langley being able to offer more courses and electives with additional kids and/or having even stronger athletics and extra-curricular programs?

2. Are you worried that the additional kids increase the likelihood of some Langley neighborhoods getting moved to other schools (e.g., Madison, South Lakes, Herndon) in a few years?

Questions for McLean Families:

1. Are you pleased that the school will be less crowded and that it will be easier for kids to make athletic teams or participate in extra-curricular activities?

2. Are you worried that the declining enrollment will lead to a significant loss of teachers and electives over the coming years?

Question for Both Langley/McLean Families:

1. Did you feel like the relevant School Board members (especially Robyn Lady, Karl Frisch, and Melanie Meren) engaged in sufficient outreach with your communities before changing the boundaries again?

2. If not, what would you have liked for them to have done instead?

Please keep the comments respectful of both schools.

None of the school board members ran on a boundary change platform or mentioned it in the campaigns last election season, so they clearly failed on the engagement and outreach.

I don’t think too many people at Langley are concerned about the new kids in the school, but obviously that would change if the school board chose to move others out.

[Anonymous]

OP, why are you asking these questions?

[Anonymous]

All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

I think the FARMS rate at Langley goes up to closer to 6% with all of Spring Hill there, but it's neither here nor there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

Either Forestville ES figures out a way to shed those Dranesville homes or the whole school will end up a Herndon feeder one day. That is the most logical way to address the "growing Langley HS" problem that OP asked about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

I've no idea who makes these posts. But, I think the Herndon Langley people are bringing them on themselves when they kept pushing against Skyview and for kids west of the DTR to move there.
One of them votes at Herndon and was quite vocal on Nextdoor against the purchase of KAA.

I could care less who goes to Herndon. I just want my neighborhood to be at a community school that does not require an hour and a half to pick up from after school activities. That is not unreasonable. When people who live less than two miles from Herndon push to move other kids there, that kind of ticks me off.

I don’t live in the area, but I can tell you that all the whining about these Herndon families is unwarranted. If you want to get mad, get big mad at the school board for giving sweetheart deals to developers to be zoned to particular school pyramids, so that these developers can sell their homes for more money.

It’s a bait and switch to allow for these businesses to cash in on the school pyramid and then switch the homes, once sold, to a different pyramid.

That may be true, but they sure tried to move other kids into Herndon who live much farther away. They were the loudest against the KAA purchase.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the current Langley students will have graduated before the next 5 year boundary change. I don’t think adding the rest of Spring Hill Elementary will change much for most students.

The ELL and FRM percents at Langley will go up slightly (less than 1% for each category), maybe that will help this board back off of hating on Langley so much for being a rich school. The new students will add around 22 FRM students and 38 ELL students. This will change the ELL percent at Langley from approximately 3.62% to 4.43%. This will change the FRM from approximately 4.68% to 5.39%.

Many of the families who currently live in neighborhoods that are likely to be rezoned in 5 years that have younger kids have already started moving closer in to Langley or sending their kids to private school.

To be fair, it’s really just one or two serial Langley-hating posters on DCUM. Don’t mistake the volume of their posts for the small volume of people who feel ill-will toward Langley.

I don't think anyone has ill-will toward Langley. People do have ill-will toward Herndon addressed homes that feel for some reason they are too good to go to Herndon high school like their neighbors and instead fight tooth and nail for the taxpayers to continue to bus them all the way across the county to Langley.

OMG. Give it a rest, obsessed lady. You didn’t get your way. Move on.
NP

Either Forestville ES figures out a way to shed those Dranesville homes or the whole school will end up a Herndon feeder one day. That is the most logical way to address the "growing Langley HS" problem that OP asked about.

"Forestville ES" will do no such thing.

The houses with Herndon addresses and probably the part of GF that is Holly Knoll area will get moved to Herndon by the school board.

Sooner or later.