How red of a flag is this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you send an actual text? (Cell phone to cell phone?) Was it inside or outside of business hours? As a boss, sending an off-hours text would be an indication to me that you were spiraling vs. using standard comms channels (email, teams) during the work day.

I sent a text after business hours.

This would be a red flag to me as a supervisor about you as an employee with regard to your ability to appropriately triage issues and raise them through appropriate channels.

+1

There’s a lot of space between “silence” and “staff know you’re disappointed and you’re panic-texting your boss after hours.”

You can face issues head on, and you can and should express when there are issues, but NOT like that.

You have a weekly 1:1. Triage your issues, and bring them up then, professionally and tactfully, one per week, and work with your boss to move forward constructively. “In order for New Function to be implemented smoothly, the team needs to do X and Y, and those are not currently happening. Is that a reasonable expectation? What’s the best approach for getting the staff on board?”

As for communication - confirming in writing works well for me. So, if you’re in a meeting, and you leave thinking the next steps are for Larla to do task A by X date and then for you to proceed with task B by Y date, send a follow up email to the attendees immediately after the meeting saying “Thanks for a productive meeting, folks! Just wanted to document next steps: Larla to do task A by X date and then I will do task B by Y date.”

Texting your boss after hours is for emergencies, not venting!

[Anonymous]

If you want longevity, then just accept the reality that these people don't want to change. Try to develop relationships with people. Take the emotion out of the equation.

But, unfortunately, you probably need to be looking for your next opportunity.

[Anonymous]

OP - it's okay to be frustrated. But you need to control how you show it. An after-hours text is probably not the right path, especially after a short period of time.

I recommend raising this up as a mea culpa in your next 1:1. Admit that you've been feeling frustrated, but acknowledge that this is just part of the learning curve for you and that you know you'll get past it. Apologize for the late text. But you can also say "look, I have high expectations and I know the team can meet them. So unless I hear otherwise, I'm going to drive them hard towards excellence - but I'm going to make sure I do it in a positive manner"

Hopefully that buries the hatchet and you can feel secure again.



FWIW, I'm in a similar state right now. I've been at my company for years and I feel secure, but I'm so frustrated and disappointed with a number of issues. It happens to everybody and many of us (myself included) let our emotions get the better of us. It only makes our lives harder, though - it doesn't solve any problems. Try to rise above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoops I posted In the wrong thread above sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t you post about this before?? You are hired to improve process or whatnot and no one is following or something like that?

Your boss is basically telling you that you are not a good fit.

+1

You sound super emotional

😭😭😭

I definitely am now

This is horrible

Now I am spiraling for sure

Jobs are not about feelings.

It's not really professional to seek emotional validation at work, in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t you post about this before?? You are hired to improve process or whatnot and no one is following or something like that?

Your boss is basically telling you that you are not a good fit.

+1

You sound super emotional

😭😭😭

I definitely am now

This is horrible

Now I am spiraling for sure

Good God.

[Anonymous]

I would relax. It's not the end of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop showing your frustration. Act like everything is great. And keep looking for a new job.

I would guess you were hoping that by showing your frustration that your boss would be sympathetic to you. Not surprising she's not.

I have had this happen. I think I'm being open and honest and instead I came across as a tad unstable. I very much regret the misstep. I made a couple more after that due to bad advice. I should have just sucked it up and realized that allowing my emotions get involved in a (frustrating) work situation was a mistake.

Fake people succeed. Remember that. Honesty makes people afraid you will let them down. You are paid to solve problems with a smile.

Sorry, I also struggle with this.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like you tried to improve a process and it failed...no one is using it. Time to start over? This is your job. Figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Keep looking. This is not a good fit because that is how they operate. They want to improve the process, yet they lack clear communication.

I think you were frustrated because you are not used to this type of environment. Also, you are trying very hard to do a good job and hold onto this job because of the lay off and the current job market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you tried to improve a process and it failed...no one is using it. Time to start over? This is your job. Figure it out.

Whoa whoa whoa stop throwing out f words! “Failure” is not exactly what happened here. All this is, is a failure to communicate. I also do process improvements for recalcitrant and hidebound boomers.

Op you have to sell it. your process isn’t a failure if #1 it works—at all times and usual foreseeable situations not just sometimes, #2 it’s faster and has less steps #3 it’s auditable

Document and run it. If people refuse to do it, cut them out of the steps and phase out their position