How distortionary will the SpaceX IPO be?

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The entire world is a casino now. I bought some NASA etf to get pre-ipo exposure. Meh. Honestly, all I can do is try to make some money to help my family.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire world is a casino now. I bought some NASA etf to get pre-ipo exposure. Meh. Honestly, all I can do is try to make some money to help my family.

If only it were that easy, so many people know this IPO is a giant scam and are all thinking the same thing. What could go wrong?!?!

[Anonymous]

The SpaceX IPO will indicate a topping of the stock market. It's 1999 all over again.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

Elon Musk is the #1 financier of a global fascist and white supremacist movement and you wish the world had more Musks. How revolting.

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Anonymous wrote:How are 401ks and pension funds exposed to this ipo?

Banks are "guaranteeing" a baseline level of trading and strong-arming retail investor funds to hold SpaceX on their portfolios. There's only so much demand for satellites and only so much revenue (data centers in space is a pipe dream). So while the pre-IPO investors cash out, everyone is holding SpaceX paper, which can catastrophically go down. Anthropic and OpenAI are coming as well, but I don't think they have such extortionate arrangements. There's probably a crash in the offing but there's no hiding place (at least for most of us).

I think OpenAi ain’t coming

[Anonymous]

Elon is the PT Barnum of our day. Pity the suckers who buy in on an emotional high. Like Tesla the price will move on emotion not actual value. Sell on high hype cycles, buy on low hype cycles just like Tesla.

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Anonymous wrote:So looks like this 2 trillion behemoth is about to hit like Godzilla rather than the Michelin marshmallow man. The IPO is structured weirdly enough that most 401Ks and pension funds will have considerable exposure and pre-IPO investors can cash in right away. So they make bank and we get caught holding the bag. And apparently the rules are such that Musk gets unfettered control and shareholders have no say over SpaceX. I guess Musk's 200M for the Trump campaign worked out after all. As retail investors (most of DCUM), we can't exactly diversify out of our Vxyz funds. Brace yourself!!

This so reminds me of 1999 when there were a ton of IPOs at lofty valuations. Anthropic also going public at an insane valuation. So many other similarities to 1999 in this market and the near risk-free 30-yr and 10-yr treasury yields just passed 5% and 4.5% respectively. Be careful. This tech bull market can't last forever and there will be a lot of retail bag holders when the dust settles. I would be taking some off the table and locking in those gains but that's just me.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

LOL. Another insane DCUM lib.

Please start taking your meds again and stop watching CNN, MSNBC and reading the NYT, WaPo, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

Agreed. He could have bought a few mega yachts, founded some pointless charity, and retired into a rich useless life. Instead, he continues to push the envelope in critical areas of modern life - space access, transportation, communications, and computing.

You may not like his politics, but at least he's taking risks and being rewarded. Most of the other billionaires don't even care anymore.

He’s terrified of death like Thiel, they are trying to advance science to extend their lives and need money for that. That’s why he had that ridiculous Tesla pay package.

He just chooses cool sounding projects because they are easy to hype and bilk the government. Go read up on Boring for example. #flamethrower

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

LOL. Another insane DCUM lib.

Please start taking your meds again and stop watching CNN, MSNBC and reading the NYT, WaPo, etc.

Doing your own rEseArCH!

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

+1 Our country could use 10000 more entrepreneurs like Elon Musk. Innovators, Disrupters, Job Creators. They keep America at the tip of the spear in Innovation and start companies that employ tens of thousands of people, who pay taxes to the govt. Unfortunately, the govt wastes those taxes on useless social programs that have heavy fraud and abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

I agree, he admitted failure at cutting any government spending or having any idea how it works. I'm sure one day he will express his feelings on the thousands of Africans who died because of his DOGE antics.

LOL. He was successful at cutting hundreds of billions of wasteful govt spending. Yes, he didn't cut a trillion. There is so much waste and fraud in the govt but it was a good start. USAID was full of waste and fraud. Besiders, why can't China take care of the Africans? The Chicoms certainly exploit them enough.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

He canceled USAID and doomed tens of thousands of the most vulnerable people on earth to death, including newborns infected with HIV. Without treatment, life expectancy is less than a year.

He stopped clinical trials cold at NIH, and left patients with implanted devices in their body, unable to seek care at the NIH Clinical Center to take them out. Other patients were on trial drugs and had to stop cold turkey, which some drugs is incredibly dangerous.

He caused confidential information about Americans to be mishandled and possibly stolen for commercial purposes.

He pollutes and damages surrounding neighborhoods of his Space X launchpad and has consistently rebuffed resident complaints.

SHAME ON YOU. I wish you the worst.

I know for a fact some of the above is exaggerated or simply false. Last time I looked we are almost $40 Trillion in debt. This level of debt and spending is unsustainable. The consequences of this debt will make DOGE cuts look like nursery school that will impact every level of American society and also make us way to vulberable to foreign adversaries who hold our debt. Some painful choices have to made and cutting USAID was a great start. At least we finally have a POTUS who is willing to start making those tough choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

Elon Musk is the #1 financier of a global fascist and white supremacist movement and you wish the world had more Musks. How revolting.

Please run off to your safe space.

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Anonymous wrote:How are 401ks and pension funds exposed to this ipo?

Banks are "guaranteeing" a baseline level of trading and strong-arming retail investor funds to hold SpaceX on their portfolios. There's only so much demand for satellites and only so much revenue (data centers in space is a pipe dream). So while the pre-IPO investors cash out, everyone is holding SpaceX paper, which can catastrophically go down. Anthropic and OpenAI are coming as well, but I don't think they have such extortionate arrangements. There's probably a crash in the offing but there's no hiding place (at least for most of us).

Why would say a small cap index, or an international index hold it? Is it going to be in the S&P500 immediately? Unless it is, I can’t think of any fund I hold where it could plausibly be included.