How distortionary will the SpaceX IPO be?

[Anonymous]

So looks like this 2 trillion behemoth is about to hit like Godzilla rather than the Michelin marshmallow man. The IPO is structured weirdly enough that most 401Ks and pension funds will have considerable exposure and pre-IPO investors can cash in right away. So they make bank and we get caught holding the bag. And apparently the rules are such that Musk gets unfettered control and shareholders have no say over SpaceX. I guess Musk's 200M for the Trump campaign worked out after all. As retail investors (most of DCUM), we can't exactly diversify out of our Vxyz funds. Brace yourself!!

[Anonymous]

There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

[Anonymous]

How are 401ks and pension funds exposed to this ipo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are 401ks and pension funds exposed to this ipo?

Banks are "guaranteeing" a baseline level of trading and strong-arming retail investor funds to hold SpaceX on their portfolios. There's only so much demand for satellites and only so much revenue (data centers in space is a pipe dream). So while the pre-IPO investors cash out, everyone is holding SpaceX paper, which can catastrophically go down. Anthropic and OpenAI are coming as well, but I don't think they have such extortionate arrangements. There's probably a crash in the offing but there's no hiding place (at least for most of us).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

[Anonymous]

This is not about Elon the man (well, it sort of is) but the fact that banks allow such arrangements, SEC turns a blind eye and the Trump admin is fine with it. The grift is gargantuan -- the 5M that Trump traded is chump change compared to this.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Which of his beliefs do you find to be insane and cruel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are 401ks and pension funds exposed to this ipo?

Banks are "guaranteeing" a baseline level of trading and strong-arming retail investor funds to hold SpaceX on their portfolios. There's only so much demand for satellites and only so much revenue (data centers in space is a pipe dream). So while the pre-IPO investors cash out, everyone is holding SpaceX paper, which can catastrophically go down. Anthropic and OpenAI are coming as well, but I don't think they have such extortionate arrangements. There's probably a crash in the offing but there's no hiding place (at least for most of us).

Has a setup like this been done before with other IPOs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

He had the rules changed so that YOUR funds have to buy it like 6 months after IPO, and they are limiting float to reduce supply which means index buys will squeeze price to ORBIT.

You can’t ignore it, it’s going to hammer any index funds you own.

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/elon-musks-spacex-could-fast-180121306.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

Agreed. He could have bought a few mega yachts, founded some pointless charity, and retired into a rich useless life. Instead, he continues to push the envelope in critical areas of modern life - space access, transportation, communications, and computing.

You may not like his politics, but at least he's taking risks and being rewarded. Most of the other billionaires don't even care anymore.

[Anonymous]

Everyone should get in on SpaceX since the government is going to be so involved it's basically socialism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

I agree, he admitted failure at cutting any government spending or having any idea how it works. I'm sure one day he will express his feelings on the thousands of Africans who died because of his DOGE antics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a number of very interesting IPOs in the offing this year, but I will ignore anything by Elon. He's a white supremacist robber baron.

Meh, he’s an autist who thinks reality matters.

PP you replied to. We're an autistic family, and none of us hold insane and cruel beliefs. Don't excuse him.

Elon is not afraid to speak the truth, when so many think they can condemn people in order to scare them into silence. I wish we had more Elon Musks.

He canceled USAID and doomed tens of thousands of the most vulnerable people on earth to death, including newborns infected with HIV. Without treatment, life expectancy is less than a year.

He stopped clinical trials cold at NIH, and left patients with implanted devices in their body, unable to seek care at the NIH Clinical Center to take them out. Other patients were on trial drugs and had to stop cold turkey, which some drugs is incredibly dangerous.

He caused confidential information about Americans to be mishandled and possibly stolen for commercial purposes.

He pollutes and damages surrounding neighborhoods of his Space X launchpad and has consistently rebuffed resident complaints.

SHAME ON YOU. I wish you the worst.