Betty Broderick Dead

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

She was a compulsive shopper and lost a series of lawyers for being so uncooperative.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-26-me-3089-story.html

I can't imagine what it was like dealing with her as a client.
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1989/jan/12/divorce-trial-murder/

It is amazing how difficult victims of abuse are.

They are the perfect person to screw over in court because they are terrible on the stand.

Really smart rapers often choose these types of victims because they will never get convicted because they can’t go on the stand.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

A lot of women in that time and still today sacrifice everything for their husband’s career and end up discarded, financially vulnerable, humiliated, and emotionally devastated. But crossing the line into killing someone means accepting the consequences too.

What makes the case tragic is that two things can be true … she was treated terribly, and she still made a deliberate choice that destroyed a lot of people’s lives, including her children’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

A lot of women in that time and still today sacrifice everything for their husband’s career and end up discarded, financially vulnerable, humiliated, and emotionally devastated. But crossing the line into killing someone means accepting the consequences too.

What makes the case tragic is that two things can be true … she was treated terribly, and she still made a deliberate choice that destroyed a lot of people’s lives, including her children’s.

I half agreed with you.

What makes this case tragic is that HE and she made deliberate choices that destroyed their children’s lives.

He made decades of premeditated and well planned decisions that destroyed her and his children children’s lives.

He planned, paid for, and executed extreme abuse while in his right mind without any mental illnesses.

She made terrible decisions with an extreme mental illness and committed non-premeditated murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

She was a compulsive shopper and lost a series of lawyers for being so uncooperative.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-10-26-me-3089-story.html

I can't imagine what it was like dealing with her as a client.
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1989/jan/12/divorce-trial-murder/

All the warning signs were there, such an unstable person. Unstable people make great victims of abuse because they tend to lose credibility quickly since they don't operate rationally. What a tragedy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

A lot of women in that time and still today sacrifice everything for their husband’s career and end up discarded, financially vulnerable, humiliated, and emotionally devastated. But crossing the line into killing someone means accepting the consequences too.

What makes the case tragic is that two things can be true … she was treated terribly, and she still made a deliberate choice that destroyed a lot of people’s lives, including her children’s.

I half agreed with you.

What makes this case tragic is that HE and she made deliberate choices that destroyed their children’s lives.

He made decades of premeditated and well planned decisions that destroyed her and his children children’s lives.

He planned, paid for, and executed extreme abuse while in his right mind without any mental illnesses.

She made terrible decisions with an extreme mental illness and committed non-premeditated murder.

Except it was premeditated. She bought the gun a month before their wedding, then went to their house when she knew they'd be asleep. What exactly do you think her intentions were?

Yes, Betty Broderick's murder of her ex-husband, Dan Broderick, and his new wife, Linda Kolkena, on November 5, 1989, was legally determined to be premeditated. Although Betty claimed she did not intend to kill them and acted in a rage, the jury found her guilty of two counts of second-degree murder, indicating they did not accept her defense of temporary insanity or lack of planning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

$16k in 1989 is the same as $42k now. If you can’t live on $42k a month, that’s on you.

[Anonymous]

This has got to be a sock puppet. 2 people debating this niche case so thoroughly at 5:30 am on a saturday??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

$16k in 1989 is the same as $42k now. If you can’t live on $42k a month, that’s on you.

This. Her ego couldn't handle him remarrying, an affair partner and much younger woman to boot. Her daughter said their marriage was unhappy and they never got along. This was not about love. She seemed to care more about appearances than the marriage itself, and was incredibly materialistic. Was he a gaslighting narcissist? Yes. But she should have taken her ample alimony and moved on with her life, focusing on her kids. In all likelihood she would have remarried, and maybe even more happily the second time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

A lot of women in that time and still today sacrifice everything for their husband’s career and end up discarded, financially vulnerable, humiliated, and emotionally devastated. But crossing the line into killing someone means accepting the consequences too.

What makes the case tragic is that two things can be true … she was treated terribly, and she still made a deliberate choice that destroyed a lot of people’s lives, including her children’s.

I half agreed with you.

What makes this case tragic is that HE and she made deliberate choices that destroyed their children’s lives.

He made decades of premeditated and well planned decisions that destroyed her and his children children’s lives.

He planned, paid for, and executed extreme abuse while in his right mind without any mental illnesses.

She made terrible decisions with an extreme mental illness and committed non-premeditated murder.

Except it was premeditated. She bought the gun a month before their wedding, then went to their house when she knew they'd be asleep. What exactly do you think her intentions were?

Yes, Betty Broderick's murder of her ex-husband, Dan Broderick, and his new wife, Linda Kolkena, on November 5, 1989, was legally determined to be premeditated. Although Betty claimed she did not intend to kill them and acted in a rage, the jury found her guilty of two counts of second-degree murder, indicating they did not accept her defense of temporary insanity or lack of planning.

Pre-meditation yes but no intent.

second-degree murder, does not have intent, you’d have to understand intent and the laws around first degree, second-degree, murder, and manslaughter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

$16k in 1989 is the same as $42k now. If you can’t live on $42k a month, that’s on you.

This. Her ego couldn't handle him remarrying, an affair partner and much younger woman to boot. Her daughter said their marriage was unhappy and they never got along. This was not about love. She seemed to care more about appearances than the marriage itself, and was incredibly materialistic. Was he a gaslighting narcissist? Yes. But she should have taken her ample alimony and moved on with her life, focusing on her kids. In all likelihood she would have remarried, and maybe even more happily the second time.

I don’t know why everybody is trying to boil this down to money.

She was abused for decades. She tried to kill herself when her daughter was too young to even remember.

Her daughter doesn’t even know the person she was before she was destroyed by her husband.

I don’t think anybody should kill anybody, but I also I’m not losing sleep when you fully and intentionally abuse somebody and then you boo-hoo about the consequences.

He created the person and the situation that eventually led to the demise of his whole family.

They both did the crime and they both did the time.

[Anonymous]

She was, continually, out of line. One bad move after another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

$16k in 1989 is the same as $42k now. If you can’t live on $42k a month, that’s on you.

This. Her ego couldn't handle him remarrying, an affair partner and much younger woman to boot. Her daughter said their marriage was unhappy and they never got along. This was not about love. She seemed to care more about appearances than the marriage itself, and was incredibly materialistic. Was he a gaslighting narcissist? Yes. But she should have taken her ample alimony and moved on with her life, focusing on her kids. In all likelihood she would have remarried, and maybe even more happily the second time.

I don’t know why everybody is trying to boil this down to money.

She was abused for decades. She tried to kill herself when her daughter was too young to even remember.

Her daughter doesn’t even know the person she was before she was destroyed by her husband.

I don’t think anybody should kill anybody, but I also I’m not losing sleep when you fully and intentionally abuse somebody and then you boo-hoo about the consequences.

He created the person and the situation that eventually led to the demise of his whole family.

They both did the crime and they both did the time.

Because that's what she did. It wasn't about him. It wasn't about the kids. It was about the money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

+1. Dan and Linda didn't deserved to be killed. And Betty might have always been unmoored. But doing things like selling the house instead of just letting her keep it when you have the means, as well as all of his other shenanigans, doesn't make him very sympathetic. There is a smart and humane way to unravel a long marriage like theirs when you are straight up cheating with your legal assistant after your wife supported you so you could build your career. But Dan didn't choose that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her but her psych assessment indicated narcissistic and histrionic personality disorder, and I believe that's accurate. She hated her two victims until the day she died and felt no remorse for the horror she single-handedly inflicted on her children. Two kids felt she should be released, but two did not.

Did she get everything she deserved in the divorce settlement? No. Was she wealthy and perfectly comfortable? Yes. Cheating sucks, and Dan and Linda were not great people, but she should have let it go and rebuilt her life.

Wealthy?

There was $2M in marital assets and she got $20K of that.

That was the lump sum, I agree not good, but she was paid $16k/month. That was a lot of money back then.

Sure $16k is a lot but she paid for his med school and law school working and raising kids …. You think it’s not wild that she was not give the marital assets and she lost her kids and she didn’t get the $16K while separated and she couldn’t afford a lawyer do she represented herself.

It’s financial abuse all around.

+1. Dan and Linda didn't deserved to be killed. And Betty might have always been unmoored. But doing things like selling the house instead of just letting her keep it when you have the means, as well as all of his other shenanigans, doesn't make him very sympathetic. There is a smart and humane way to unravel a long marriage like theirs when you are straight up cheating with your legal assistant after your wife supported you so you could build your career. But Dan didn't choose that.

Oh he was an a-hole to her, no question. It was her lack of care toward her children I can't excuse.

[Anonymous]

What about the 48 hour rule?

Dan was making 140k/mo. He kept Betty on a hamster wheel putting him through school, having 5 babies, and building his business. He tortured her and then he tortured her through the legal system.

All of her children maintained relationships with her, and she accepted them including the one who called her a good person but testified against her release.

Her sentence was wildly unfair compared to a lot of men who brutally murder their partners and get off lightly.