Yup, sounds like my son too. Will not pay $7 for beer at a bar, because he can source cheaper beer elsewhere. Knows how to cook his various "bowls" thanks to an awesome, very focussed, very sorted, super zen Korean-American friend who taught all of these guys how to cook up a storm and also how to feed themselves on a budget with just a portable butane burner. Did not want a big fat graduation celebration (HS or College). Instead, took money from me and did different activities with different group of friends. So, very frugal. And if we spend $$$$ money without researching, he yells at us for blowing away his "inheritance". |
OP here. I don’t know about that. I am definitely not permissive when it comes to things like drugs and drinking, but I do allow “freedoms” like letting DS drive a sports car sometimes and not helicoptering about school, grades, and ECs but part of that is I’m tired. I’m pretty normal suburban now but when I was in high school I was creative and artsy, tried marijauna, and was not at all sporty. DS is athletic. I’m not complaining, just somewhat pleasantly surprised. |
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Are you white American, OP? I am East Asian, and in our culture it is expected that our children will not rebel in any visible way. I am confused by your surprise. Or is this is a weird humblebrag? Your message is not getting across. |
No shit sherlock...that's why my first question to OP was where do you live? |
Me again. But also, you equate "creative and artsy" and non-athletic with being quirky? Where do you place classical musicians, then? Performing arts in general? Is my teen daughter non-conforming because she rides on horseback, likes to play violin and paint watercolors? Athletes mean squeaky clean to you? You don't seem to know what you're talking about, honestly. |
Are you an actual immigrant (i.e., not even first generation)? Because, I guarantee by the 3rd generation, many East Asians act just like any other American. |
OP here. I am white, and in the time and place I grew up, most teens did rebel or experiment or seek adventures in some way, even small ways. So it is a little surprising. |
| If your son starts exhibiting signs like in the Progressive commercials, then you should get concerned. |
What do you prefer? A frat bro hooking up with new girls every few months, riding motorcycle, getting tattooed, drinking and driving, experimenting with weed, vaping etc? |
Or turning into a soy boy? |
| He'll be fine. He doesn't have to follow whatever blueprint you imagined for his life. You did something right. Congratulations! |
This is our son. He’s 23 |
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I guess this could have been me when I was that age.
For me there's some degree to which it's reactionary. I have an older sibling who struggled with addiction in his teens and 20s (he's been sober for a long time now, but his best friend who I had know my whole life died young due to complications) and for me it seemed a better idea to just not even get close to that. |
| Lol we've been privately joking that 19yo is already a middle-aged suburban dad for a few years now, it's very sweet and honestly kind of a nice balance with our older dd who lives fairly exciting life that terrifies us at times. But ds is happy playing golf and poker with his buds, grilling up some burgers or steaks afterward, heading out on shopping errands with his girlfriend. And perhaps most importantly he seems quite content and has great friendly energy that serves him well in the world/at school/at work. So i'm all good with it. |
I don’t think “artsy” means what you think it does. When someone is talking about an “artsy” kid, they usually are not talking about a clean-cut classical musician. It is more likely to describe a kid with blue hair or scraggly look who isn’t into STEM or classical music. It has a very different meaning in 2026 than it did in the 90s or 00s. |