When I was in college (20+ years ago) I worked retail and was scheduled 4-5 days a week

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Anonymous wrote:Because the USA is post-boom cycle, OP. The biggest mistake people make is assuming that countries' economies do not change and that they can have the same lifestyle as their parents, or better. These assumptions are entirely unreasonable, since new technology drives the global economy and human beings find it very hard to predict where it's going to lead in the future, and which country will suddenly find itself with an economic advantage or an economic vulnerability.

We are now experiencing a rebalancing of the world powers, from a post-WWII American ultra-supremacy to a different equilibrium, with China as an equal power.

There is no domestic policy in the world that can offset that, unless you're looking at drastic shifts in work-life balance and a reframing of societal expectations (like what happened to Japan post WWII - it was brutal). It's not any President's fault, whether right or left, that the USA has declined in economic influence. There are just too many global factors at play.

This is utter nonsense. I agree with the view that things can change. But China is not a power equal to the US and it cannot be because of their system. We are not in a post boom anything. Even if we were this macro issue has nothing to do with OP's question.

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Anonymous wrote:My 16 year old has applied to at least 30 jobs and has gotten one interview at McDonalds. They didn't like his availability because he is in high school full time. He said he could work evenings and weekends and they said no. His group of friends the only one getting hired are lifeguards.

Many of the jobs teenagers got in past years are being done by recent immigrants or other adults. Most places want you to be over 18.

Don't know where you live, but apply at the country clubs. They hire mainly teens / college students for many member-facing jobs (i.e., working in the golf shop, caddying, waiter, waitress, etc.). You will find some adults working as servers, but not many.

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Anonymous wrote:My 16 year old has applied to at least 30 jobs and has gotten one interview at McDonalds. They didn't like his availability because he is in high school full time. He said he could work evenings and weekends and they said no. His group of friends the only one getting hired are lifeguards.

Many of the jobs teenagers got in past years are being done by recent immigrants or other adults. Most places want you to be over 18.

Pools, camps, retail. County and city pools have no life guarding jobs.

Some county and city pools have contracts with a company and you have to apply with the company.

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My kids work in nursing homes - receptionist, food service, etc. type positions. They get plenty of hours. My one also has a job as a barista and those hours are limited to like 12 a week, but it pays well.

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Because working during the college or HS school year is stupid. When you graduate HS, they want to see very high GPAs and tons of extra stuff to get into a good college, then same repeats in college to get in to a internship, job after graduation or grad school.

I worked all through HS and college and so did wife buy world was different back then Employers valued students who could juggle a job and graduate on time.

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They take out loans to avoid working

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Anonymous wrote:My 16 year old has applied to at least 30 jobs and has gotten one interview at McDonalds. They didn't like his availability because he is in high school full time. He said he could work evenings and weekends and they said no. His group of friends the only one getting hired are lifeguards.

Many of the jobs teenagers got in past years are being done by recent immigrants or other adults. Most places want you to be over 18.

Don't know where you live, but apply at the country clubs. They hire mainly teens / college students for many member-facing jobs (i.e., working in the golf shop, caddying, waiter, waitress, etc.). You will find some adults working as servers, but not many.

If I had a college aged daughter I would have her frequent the local country clubs and find herself a wealthy, single man in his 50s or 60s and get pregnant by him.

That’s pretty f**king weird. Why not at least do it with the wealthy person’s 20 year old kid?

Actually I would do it with a guy who is a widower on a huge Fed Pension and max SS with a huge 401k. I recall once in Newspaper a CEO who was 64 set for mandatory retirment at 65 in a few months with a one million a year for life pension and had a seven figure 401k and max SS married a women who was 25. Of course he died in the saddle with her of a heart attack short before his retirement date. She got survivor benefits on everything.

Not finding many of those belonging to Chevy Chase CC. Maybe there are some judges just like Caddyshack who became members way back in the day.

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Anonymous wrote:My dd works at a chain coffee place and she has 1 shift a week right now. She can occasionally pick up one or two more. They have so many employees.

DD works for a chain restaurant and is lucky if she gets to work 3 days/week.. Any open shifts that come up are quickly snagged.

Cost-cutting and all, but it's also a major shift in consumerism since you and me worked "back in the day" - Uber eats, online orders, restaurant options, fast casual are the norm, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:My dd works at a chain coffee place and she has 1 shift a week right now. She can occasionally pick up one or two more. They have so many employees.

DD works for a chain restaurant and is lucky if she gets to work 3 days/week.. Any open shifts that come up are quickly snagged.

Cost-cutting and all, but it's also a major shift in consumerism since you and me worked "back in the day" - Uber eats, online orders, restaurant options, fast casual are the norm, etc.

I know my HS kid's friends work as Door Dashers a bunch. It's kind of amazing how they just incorporate it into their daily routine.

As an example, my kid's baseball team played a game out in Reston and one of the kids Door Dashed all the way back to DC and made like $100 just picking up jobs all along his route home.

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I know this is a retail thread, but have you all looked into babysitting, dog walking, or mowing lawns? Mowing lawns is the perfect summer job for a teen. I pay babysitters $20-25 an hour and that's pretty standard. It's hard to get a retail job that pays anywhere near that. Also, it's like $75 a night for dog watchers and $25 a walk. My dog is very chill and is a joy to take care of.

Retail has been gutted by the requirements to pay health care and benefits once you hit 40 hours a week. The companies just can't afford it so they keep hours very low.

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Anonymous wrote:College was paid by my parents. I worked retail to cover my basic living expenses and to also have some extra spending money. I was regularly scheduled between 4-5 days a week and if I wanted to pick up an extra shift there was always one available just as long as I did not go over 40 hours.

Now let us fast forward 20 years. My nieces and nephews, not only is their college not already paid for but they are lucky if they are scheduled even 2 days a week if they try and work any retail job. On top of that, basic living expenses continue to go up.

What is a young person today supposed to do?

Depend on their parents to also cover their basic living expenses in addition to also providing some spending money?

Why are retail employers reluctant to schedule their part timers to more than 1-2 days a week?

OMG I hear you! My college aged son is STRUGGLING to find full time work this summer and is looking to piece together 3 PT jobs to get FT money. He is such a hard worker and so reliable and smart I feel really bad that its hard to find even the most basic of full time minimum wage pay.

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Anonymous wrote:College was paid by my parents. I worked retail to cover my basic living expenses and to also have some extra spending money. I was regularly scheduled between 4-5 days a week and if I wanted to pick up an extra shift there was always one available just as long as I did not go over 40 hours.

Now let us fast forward 20 years. My nieces and nephews, not only is their college not already paid for but they are lucky if they are scheduled even 2 days a week if they try and work any retail job. On top of that, basic living expenses continue to go up.

What is a young person today supposed to do?

Depend on their parents to also cover their basic living expenses in addition to also providing some spending money?

Why are retail employers reluctant to schedule their part timers to more than 1-2 days a week?

OMG I hear you! My college aged son is STRUGGLING to find full time work this summer and is looking to piece together 3 PT jobs to get FT money. He is such a hard worker and so reliable and smart I feel really bad that its hard to find even the most basic of full time minimum wage pay.

OMG I hear you! My college aged son is STRUGGLING to find full time work this summer and is looking to piece together 3 PT jobs to get FT money. He is such a hard worker and so reliable and smart I feel really bad that its hard to find even the most basic of full time minimum wage pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this is a retail thread, but have you all looked into babysitting, dog walking, or mowing lawns? Mowing lawns is the perfect summer job for a teen. I pay babysitters $20-25 an hour and that's pretty standard. It's hard to get a retail job that pays anywhere near that. Also, it's like $75 a night for dog watchers and $25 a walk. My dog is very chill and is a joy to take care of.

Retail has been gutted by the requirements to pay health care and benefits once you hit 40 hours a week. The companies just can't afford it so they keep hours very low.

My high schooler mows lawns and it is very hard to fill up his entire summer. Many people have lawn services for year round contracts that cover everying from areation, tree trimming and cheimcal application. he can't compete with that. He does have about 6 reliable customers, but it is far from full time. And if you have a boy, very very hard to get babysitting jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:My 16 year old has applied to at least 30 jobs and has gotten one interview at McDonalds. They didn't like his availability because he is in high school full time. He said he could work evenings and weekends and they said no. His group of friends the only one getting hired are lifeguards.

Many of the jobs teenagers got in past years are being done by recent immigrants or other adults. Most places want you to be over 18.

Don't know where you live, but apply at the country clubs. They hire mainly teens / college students for many member-facing jobs (i.e., working in the golf shop, caddying, waiter, waitress, etc.). You will find some adults working as servers, but not many.

No local country club around here is hiring a teen caddy! LOLOLOL. No restaurant is hiring a 16yr old waitress becuase they cannot serve any alcohol. At my country club all of the waiters are immigrants. Every. Single. One. Some of them in very unfortunate positiion where they were professionals in their home country where their certifications or degrees do not transfer over here.

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Anonymous wrote:Because working during the college or HS school year is stupid. When you graduate HS, they want to see very high GPAs and tons of extra stuff to get into a good college, then same repeats in college to get in to a internship, job after graduation or grad school.

I worked all through HS and college and so did wife buy world was different back then Employers valued students who could juggle a job and graduate on time.

Not true. My kid got into some amazing schools and ended up on UVA. He worked all 4 years of high school at the same place and it was a cornerstone of his personal essays. You use the word "extra stuff" when I think you mean extracurriculars. A job is precisesly that, and having a job at the same place for 4 years is about as good as it gets. He learned how to work hard, show up, work as a team, be reliable, deal with difficut peiople, and commit to someting and stick wtih it.