| She is a doula, she had access to birth control and abortion pills, she took a risk of keeping the pregnancy even though she is obese and had three previous C-sections. If she didn't want medical help, should've opted for home birth. Why come to hospital and ask medical team to stand and watch her make wrong decisions and later get sued for liability? |
| However, in the end, neither hospital nor government has a right to force her. This is less about putting unborn over already born and more like hospital avoiding a lawsuit. |
| 3 previous C sections, morbidly obese - lots of risk factors here. I’m very pro choice even though I really dislike abortion simply because I think an unwanted child is a tragedy, however, I’m mulling over this whole thing since we’re talking about full term babies who will possibly suffer lifelong consequences from a poor decision, but I still have concerns about female autonomy. |
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As the mom of a 28 week preemie, born decades ago, the most important thing is a healthy child.and mom.
I have a mentally ill brother that I care for too. Physical and mental health is underrated. |
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It seems like every young woman I know who has given birth lately has had a C-section--usually scheduled ahead of time.
Two things can be true: there are too many C-sections and C-sections can be necessary. |
| So, in the state of Florida, you can reject the life-saving measles vaccine for your child but if you're a woman, you have no autonomy to reject a C-section, and the hospital and state will fill up your room with people insisting you do what the judge tells you to do even if you know your own body and that you are able to give birth vaginally. All of a sudden, medical freedom doesn't exist in the state of Florida. |
+1 But will it stop at the morbidly obese woman who may have required a c-section after all? What if you are thin, went through pre-birth classes, exercise and eat well, have a seasoned doula, and feel confident that you can get through a rough labor (I'm sure there are more than a handful of us on this site who fit this description)? For women in Florida and similar conservative states, are all bets off now? Can the hospital bring in the state because you're in labor a little too long for their taste and they know of a great judge who has a few minutes to yell at you from an iPad? |
| Wanna bet most of these supposedly pro-life Bible humpin’ bros would happily — and probably already have— pay for their mistress’s abortions. |
| So in Florida, the state will intervene to save the child's life in this case but not for vaccination? Ok. |
The risks of going to term and delivering a child vaginally outweigh the risks of doing so by c-section, once you get to 39 weeks gestation. It is medically reasonable to offer the lower risk option. |
This is harsh, but I totally agree. The article cites a handful of cases stretching back almost 30 years - i.e. - this isn't something that's happening all the time. And the two with personal testimonies actually seem to have produced the correct medical result. I'm actually much more troubled by the case of a woman with premature labor at 25 weeks being forced back to the hospital. |
Well that is indeed a concern. But from an ethical standpoint do we have an obligation to the child? |
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She brings up good points about the lack of post maternal care. Then the give her a t scar which means she'll never be able to try for a vbac and increases risk of future pregnancies. Interesting.
THEN she is kept from her baby in the NICU. |
Since child is a minor, or micro in this case, mother can decide for them. |
Understandable but as a plus she can also get a hysterectomy to avoid such future issues. |