Handgun recovered at Gaithersburg High School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Y'all really need to get a life.

You need to address the substance instead of being mad that people are pointing out that MCPS does not have a serious safety plan for students or teachers.

There was no substance to address.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Y'all really need to get a life.

You need to address the substance instead of being mad that people are pointing out that MCPS does not have a serious safety plan for students or teachers.

There was no substance to address.

Yes there was. You just don't want to admit it. Probably because you work for the system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

So again: The only threat detection system that MCPS is going to deploy to prevent weapons from getting in the school building is for the minor students to be the ones doing the detecting, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Y'all really need to get a life.

You need to address the substance instead of being mad that people are pointing out that MCPS does not have a serious safety plan for students or teachers.

There was no substance to address.

Yes there was. You just don't want to admit it. Probably because you work for the system.

Rants and vitriol are not substance.
Sorry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

Thank goodness for the person who provided the tip!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Y'all really need to get a life.

You need to address the substance instead of being mad that people are pointing out that MCPS does not have a serious safety plan for students or teachers.

There was no substance to address.

Yes there was. You just don't want to admit it. Probably because you work for the system.

Rants and vitriol are not substance.
Sorry

It was not a rant, nor was it vitriolic. The fact that you're spinning and spiraling says everything we need to know about MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

So again: The only threat detection system that MCPS is going to deploy to prevent weapons from getting in the school building is for the minor students to be the ones doing the detecting, right?

Again, I said metal detectors would be ideal but until that happens what else do you think should be done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

So again: The only threat detection system that MCPS is going to deploy to prevent weapons from getting in the school building is for the minor students to be the ones doing the detecting, right?

Again, I said metal detectors would be ideal but until that happens what else do you think should be done?

I disagree that metal detectors are ideal. First, we all carry metal so if you’re going to have a metal detector, you also need an x-ray for bags. Otherwise spiral notebooks and keys etc are going to set off the metal detector and every single bag will have to be searched. I go through a courthouse metal detector daily and my underwire bra regularly sets it off. You are going to have teen undergarments setting it off as well. Then what are you going to do, pat them down? An extra wand sweep? This will take forever with the number of people coming in at the same time every morning. It’s not practical, and more guns are being made of plastic now anyway.

Human intelligence is the way you keep communities like this safe. Kids know stuff and if everyone wants to stay safe and they know how to report and trust the adults in charge they will report. It’s a better basis for searches etc than the dragnet of subjecting all students to searches/metal detectors etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

So again: The only threat detection system that MCPS is going to deploy to prevent weapons from getting in the school building is for the minor students to be the ones doing the detecting, right?

Again, I said metal detectors would be ideal but until that happens what else do you think should be done?

I disagree that metal detectors are ideal. First, we all carry metal so if you’re going to have a metal detector, you also need an x-ray for bags. Otherwise spiral notebooks and keys etc are going to set off the metal detector and every single bag will have to be searched. I go through a courthouse metal detector daily and my underwire bra regularly sets it off. You are going to have teen undergarments setting it off as well. Then what are you going to do, pat them down? An extra wand sweep? This will take forever with the number of people coming in at the same time every morning. It’s not practical, and more guns are being made of plastic now anyway.

Human intelligence is the way you keep communities like this safe. Kids know stuff and if everyone wants to stay safe and they know how to report and trust the adults in charge they will report. It’s a better basis for searches etc than the dragnet of subjecting all students to searches/metal detectors etc

I agree with this.

There's a lot MCPS can do from a human intelligence perspective before we get to weapons detection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Y'all really need to get a life.

You need to address the substance instead of being mad that people are pointing out that MCPS does not have a serious safety plan for students or teachers.

There was no substance to address.

Yes there was. You just don't want to admit it. Probably because you work for the system.

Rants and vitriol are not substance.
Sorry

It was not a rant, nor was it vitriolic. The fact that you're spinning and spiraling says everything we need to know about MCPS.[/quote]
Seek mental help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you post the community letter?

The gist was that this morning they received an anonymous tip that a student had a weapon. They immediately called local PD and they then recovered the handgun from a student following a self search. It then praised students for following the "See Something, Say Something" mantra and encouraged parents to speak with kids about guns

So basically, MCPS is outsourcing it's entirely security strategy to minor children and relying on them to be their systemwide threat detection system? That sounds....irresponsible.

Some of you people are so gosh darned miserable that you cannot even recognize when something actually worked.

MCPS Admin: Put your ego aside and get out of your feelings. How does what you said address my point? Yes, THIS TIME, it went well. But my point is how scalable and how sustainable is that approach? You think the entirety of MCPS security strategy should be reliant on kids telling you someone in the building has a weapon or is a threat?

MCPS doesn't want to fund more security guards. They'd rather buy polo's for central office.

You could add 10 more security guards in each school and you would still need to rely on students doing the right thing and notifying adults when there is a risk. Yes, metal detectors would be nice but until that day comes, no amount of security will stop these events unless you authorize them to do full pat downs as kids enter the school.

Wouldn't that be a violation of students' constitutional rights?

Yes. It also would be highly invasive and a massive risk for handling minors. That's why adding an army of security guards won't solve anything without relying on the ability for students to do the right thing in reporting threats and risks.

So again: The only threat detection system that MCPS is going to deploy to prevent weapons from getting in the school building is for the minor students to be the ones doing the detecting, right?

Again, I said metal detectors would be ideal but until that happens what else do you think should be done?

I disagree that metal detectors are ideal. First, we all carry metal so if you’re going to have a metal detector, you also need an x-ray for bags. Otherwise spiral notebooks and keys etc are going to set off the metal detector and every single bag will have to be searched. I go through a courthouse metal detector daily and my underwire bra regularly sets it off. You are going to have teen undergarments setting it off as well. Then what are you going to do, pat them down? An extra wand sweep? This will take forever with the number of people coming in at the same time every morning. It’s not practical, and more guns are being made of plastic now anyway.

Human intelligence is the way you keep communities like this safe. Kids know stuff and if everyone wants to stay safe and they know how to report and trust the adults in charge they will report. It’s a better basis for searches etc than the dragnet of subjecting all students to searches/metal detectors etc

Many other school districts are able to pull it off

[Anonymous]

WJLA covered the incident: https://wjla.com/news/local/gaithersburg-loaded-gun-high-school-student-backpack-glock-handgun-serial-number-montgomery-county-weapons-serial-number-extended-magazine-weapon-safety

GAITHERSBURG, Md. (7News) — A Gaithersburg High School student arrested on campus Tuesday was found to have a loaded gun in his bag early into the school day, according to Gaithersburg, Maryland, police.

Police were tipped off to the 17-year-old student, who remains unidentified, at around 9:15 a.m., finding a loaded .40 caliber Glock handgun and an extended magazine.

According to a statement, school staff told police they got an anonymous tip from a community member about the student possessing a handgun.

Gaithersburg and Montgomery County police officers quickly found the student with the gun and an extended magazine, the gun having an "obliterated" serial number.

The teen was charged as an adult and booked for a dangerous weapon on school property, handgun on person, loaded handgun on person, minor in possession of a firearm, and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.

Police did not report any injuries, but confirmed there was no ongoing threat.

[Anonymous]

What is a self search? Hey, kid, give me the gun? And the kid hands it over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is a self search? Hey, kid, give me the gun? And the kid hands it over?

Probably