| None of the movies are ones I’ve ever heard of except for award pitches. |
Yep. Just like the Grammys, I only watch award shows if I actually care about a nominee. For many, many years now, I haven’t watched or even heard of most Oscar nominated films. |
Carey Mulligan |
Which ones? Seems it is mostly still actors / musicians / athletes who have the most followers on platforms. Who are you thinking are famous entertainers on youtube? |
I disagree. I love certain content creators but I don't delude myself that my favorite ones are famous in the way movie stars are. But it does depend on the demographic. Someone who cares about Mr Beast, the YouTuber with the most viewers worldwide, might not have heard of Nicole Kidman, for ex, but maybe they have heard of Tom Cruise, since a lot of Mr Beast fans are boys. |
+1. I used to watch all, or nearly all, of the Best Picture nominees before they expanded the category. Now the last Best Picture nominees I saw were Parasite (2019) and Nomadland (2020), and I am lucky if I have seen even one of the nominees (e.g., Wicked (2024), Barbie (2023), The Banshees of Inisherin (2022)). There are a few more I want to see but haven't heard of many of the rest. |
You haven't heard of Sinners? |
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Most award shows are seeing declining viewership - that's not new.
The Oscars always makes me shake my head - there's all this angst about why the oscars don't have great ratings, and it's because people watch things that are entertaining. Watching celebrities win awards is entertaining. Watching the costume designer and all the other non celebrity awards be awarded is simply not as entertaining. It's just not. The Oscars know this - a few years back they tried to cram the non celebrity awards into a weird presentations style (they did'nt let winners come t othe podium or something? I don't remember exactly). But that's the problem - they are pretentious and overly bloated but when they try to cut out bits people complain bitterly. The grammys are worth watching because of the music - and a bunch of awards are given out not on TV. The other thing about the Oscars no one wants to admit is that the ratings are higher when wildly popular movies win big. IE, higher ratings the year Titantic wn most awards, same with the Lord of the Rings. People say having a wide range of nominees and winners show the medium as a whole is strong. Ok, sure. Yes, a lot of good stuff out there. But when there is a widening gap between what the public is seeing and what is actually winning, ratings slide down even further. When the 'oscar buzz movies' barely even come out in 2025, or are already preordained befoe they even come out and are vetted by a public (not just critics), there's a disconnect. Who cares. Both of these things are unsolveable on their own, so ratings will continue to decline until everything is only streaming and then raitings will be even lower, but we won't know it. |
| I feel like awards are usually just rigged by studios and whoever peers/industry/press feel is due for their "moment". Often an actor will win for some of their weakest work, and people who were amazing in a movie that didn't do well will get overlooked. I also don't think many celebrities these days are "special" the way movie stars used to feel. |
Also, so many of the women are scary thin. Ariana Grande, Cynthia Erivo, Emma Stone, Demi Moore... awful. |
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It’s because there are too many categories.
Most people just want to see the following bests: Director Film Actor Actress Supporting actor Supporting actress Maybe also screenplay, costumes, score. No one wants to watch speeches. |
| We also don't go to the movies the way we used to. There used to be summers full of movies that everyone wanted to see - and now it seem there are fewer good ones. It's hard to get excited about awards for something you don't know about for people who you don't care about. |
+1 Also, I don't want to hear anyone's political views during an entertainment show. |
| It's because no one goes to the movies anymore. TV (streaming, mostly) has way better content. Movies are too expensive, and people don't know how to behave in a theater anymore. Scrolling their phones and talking. Hate it. |
Yes, I agree. It's been ruined by rude people with no manners. And I live in a nice area. Oh, well. I love my beautiful comfortable couch and pause the TV to use the ladies room. |