Fairfax county and va governor policies allow illegal immigrant to be let out multiple times and murder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

Sounds amazing! How would you compare the summer weather to here? Are the people friendly there? Conservative or liberal? I need some space but also would like a community feel too. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow

Great job this guy should have been deported but even if he wasn't illegal they kept letting him out of jail even murder and then release again

illegal immigrant with a lengthy violent criminal history was accused of killing a mother

https://wjla.com/news/local/could-have-been-prevented-fairfax-police-union-slams-descano-after-womans-murder

1) I’m glad Abigail Spanberger is Governor instead of Winsome Earle-Sears.

2) You are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a U.S. citizen than by an immigrant.

Spanberger has been governor for 2 months.

If someone wants to run against Descano, fine. He came close to being primaries last time. But we're referencing police emails from April 2024 which notably was not when Spanberger was governor.

Spamberger wants to hide the illegals and protect them even more so it's going to get worse

+1,000,000 she literally just told the state police they can't work with ICE either along with all the local departments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

Sounds amazing! How would you compare the summer weather to here? Are the people friendly there? Conservative or liberal? I need some space but also would like a community feel too. Thanks!

Summers are comparable to VA. Winters here are generally milder- not as much snow. The area I live is a mix of conservative and liberal folks, but the liberals here aren’t batshit crazy. The state definitely leans conservative. Nashville and Memphis are more liberal. Knoxville is more of a mix. I live in a neighborhood that is very tight - neighbor helping neighbor. Everyone watches out for each other. And the law enforcement here is awesome. They are very fair but don’t put up with much. It is great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

DP. These all sound like reasonable subjective reasons to move, but don’t move because you think crime will be less in Tennessee.

Tennessee vs. Virginia Crime Rates (2024 FBI/State Data, per 100,000 residents)

- Murder/Homicide Rate
Tennessee: ~8–10 (high, driven by cities like Memphis at ~40.6)
Virginia: ~4.8 (declined from prior years)

- Violent Crime Rate (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault)
Tennessee: 592 (top 5 nationally)
Virginia: ~190–234 (well below national average; ~7% drop from 2023)

- Property Crime Rate (burglary, larceny, vehicle theft)
Tennessee: ~2,032 (elevated, esp. in urban areas)
Virginia: Lower (national avg. ~1,760; VA consistently safer)

Bottom line: Tennessee's serious crime rates remain 2–3× higher than Virginia's overall, though both states saw declines in 2024. (Sources: FBI estimates, USAFacts, state reports.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am very disappointed that Glen Youngkin did nothing about this. Hopefully Spanberger can address it now that it's come to light

Nice try. You can blame Descano and the other insane prosecutors who care more about criminals than victims. And if you think Spanberger is going to make things better, boy do I have news for you.

Gov. Spanberger's office tells @NickMinock she won't honor an ICE detainer for an illegal alien with 30+ prior arrests, including rape, who is accused of murdering a woman at a bus stop. She wants ICE to get a judicial warrant - which isn't possible unless there is suspicion of *FEDERAL CRIME*. Murder, rape, etc are largely state crimes. It's remarkable how few politicians understand how this works. A federal judicial warrant can only be signed off on by a federal judge if there is probable cause that a FEDERAL CRIME has been committed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

DP. These all sound like reasonable subjective reasons to move, but don’t move because you think crime will be less in Tennessee.

Tennessee vs. Virginia Crime Rates (2024 FBI/State Data, per 100,000 residents)

- Murder/Homicide Rate
Tennessee: ~8–10 (high, driven by cities like Memphis at ~40.6)
Virginia: ~4.8 (declined from prior years)

- Violent Crime Rate (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault)
Tennessee: 592 (top 5 nationally)
Virginia: ~190–234 (well below national average; ~7% drop from 2023)

- Property Crime Rate (burglary, larceny, vehicle theft)
Tennessee: ~2,032 (elevated, esp. in urban areas)
Virginia: Lower (national avg. ~1,760; VA consistently safer)

Bottom line: Tennessee's serious crime rates remain 2–3× higher than Virginia's overall, though both states saw declines in 2024. (Sources: FBI estimates, USAFacts, state reports.)

Tennessean here. Yes - cities like Memphis and recently, Nashville- have driven up the crime rate. The recent crackdown in Memphis with bringing in the National Guard has been very successful. Both cities are governed by democrats- and some of the same liberal policies that have impacted crime rates in other cities are at play here too. Having said that - there are many areas of our state that are very safe for all residents. I’m in East Tennessee and we have wonderful law enforcement and very little crime - property crime or violent crime. I am more fearful of coyote than I am of being a victim of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very disappointed that Glen Youngkin did nothing about this. Hopefully Spanberger can address it now that it's come to light

Nice try. You can blame Descano and the other insane prosecutors who care more about criminals than victims. And if you think Spanberger is going to make things better, boy do I have news for you.

Gov. Spanberger's office tells @NickMinock she won't honor an ICE detainer for an illegal alien with 30+ prior arrests, including rape, who is accused of murdering a woman at a bus stop. She wants ICE to get a judicial warrant - which isn't possible unless there is suspicion of *FEDERAL CRIME*. Murder, rape, etc are largely state crimes. It's remarkable how few politicians understand how this works. A federal judicial warrant can only be signed off on by a federal judge if there is probable cause that a FEDERAL CRIME has been committed.

Dude, nobody in their right mind is cooperating with ICE. ICE has burned any good will by shooting citizens in the street, telling egregious lies in the face of mountains of evidence of their misdeeds, tearing gassing infants, and countless other misdeeds. Really, I’m much more concerned about my safety from ICE agents than immigrants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am very disappointed that Glen Youngkin did nothing about this. Hopefully Spanberger can address it now that it's come to light

Nice try. You can blame Descano and the other insane prosecutors who care more about criminals than victims. And if you think Spanberger is going to make things better, boy do I have news for you.

I’m confused. The title of the thread says “VA governor policies”. Youngkin was governor for the last four years. What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very disappointed that Glen Youngkin did nothing about this. Hopefully Spanberger can address it now that it's come to light

Nice try. You can blame Descano and the other insane prosecutors who care more about criminals than victims. And if you think Spanberger is going to make things better, boy do I have news for you.

Gov. Spanberger's office tells @NickMinock she won't honor an ICE detainer for an illegal alien with 30+ prior arrests, including rape, who is accused of murdering a woman at a bus stop. She wants ICE to get a judicial warrant - which isn't possible unless there is suspicion of *FEDERAL CRIME*. Murder, rape, etc are largely state crimes. It's remarkable how few politicians understand how this works. A federal judicial warrant can only be signed off on by a federal judge if there is probable cause that a FEDERAL CRIME has been committed.

Dude, nobody in their right mind is cooperating with ICE. ICE has burned any good will by shooting citizens in the street, telling egregious lies in the face of mountains of evidence of their misdeeds, tearing gassing infants, and countless other misdeeds. Really, I’m much more concerned about my safety from ICE agents than immigrants.

Hey, friend. Do a little research.
In the cities and states where the leaders cooperate with ICE (and there are many of them), there isn’t violence and very very few issues. You don’t hear about those BECAUSE of the cooperation.
It is the states that DON’T cooperate (like Minnesota and Massachusetts) where the leaders encourage the public to actively resist where issues arise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

DP. These all sound like reasonable subjective reasons to move, but don’t move because you think crime will be less in Tennessee.

Tennessee vs. Virginia Crime Rates (2024 FBI/State Data, per 100,000 residents)

- Murder/Homicide Rate
Tennessee: ~8–10 (high, driven by cities like Memphis at ~40.6)
Virginia: ~4.8 (declined from prior years)

- Violent Crime Rate (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault)
Tennessee: 592 (top 5 nationally)
Virginia: ~190–234 (well below national average; ~7% drop from 2023)

- Property Crime Rate (burglary, larceny, vehicle theft)
Tennessee: ~2,032 (elevated, esp. in urban areas)
Virginia: Lower (national avg. ~1,760; VA consistently safer)

Bottom line: Tennessee's serious crime rates remain 2–3× higher than Virginia's overall, though both states saw declines in 2024. (Sources: FBI estimates, USAFacts, state reports.)

Tennessean here. Yes - cities like Memphis and recently, Nashville- have driven up the crime rate. The recent crackdown in Memphis with bringing in the National Guard has been very successful. Both cities are governed by democrats- and some of the same liberal policies that have impacted crime rates in other cities are at play here too. Having said that - there are many areas of our state that are very safe for all residents. I’m in East Tennessee and we have wonderful law enforcement and very little crime - property crime or violent crime. I am more fearful of coyote than I am of being a victim of crime.

Since you correcting perceptions about Tennessee, I’d like to correct perceptions about Fairfax County, VA, where I live.

Fairfax County, Virginia, has an estimated population of 1+ million.

Its crime rate is relatively low: violent crime is well below national and state averages (e.g., ~96 violent crimes per 100,000 residents vs. U.S. ~255; often graded A+ for safety, safer than 97% of U.S. counties). Property crime is also lower than average. It’s a Democrat controlled county.

Despite crimes like the ones cited in this thread, Fairfax Co. is a very place safe to live, particularly in its more affluent suburbs. That being said, I did not vote for Descano, and I am concerned about some of his office’s actions like the ones cited here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow

Great job this guy should have been deported but even if he wasn't illegal they kept letting him out of jail even murder and then release again

illegal immigrant with a lengthy violent criminal history was accused of killing a mother

https://wjla.com/news/local/could-have-been-prevented-fairfax-police-union-slams-descano-after-womans-murder

1) I’m glad Abigail Spanberger is Governor instead of Winsome Earle-Sears.

2) You are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a U.S. citizen than by an immigrant.

There should be a 0% chance of being killed by a person in the country illegally. It shouldn’t even be an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow

Great job this guy should have been deported but even if he wasn't illegal they kept letting him out of jail even murder and then release again

illegal immigrant with a lengthy violent criminal history was accused of killing a mother

https://wjla.com/news/local/could-have-been-prevented-fairfax-police-union-slams-descano-after-womans-murder

1) I’m glad Abigail Spanberger is Governor instead of Winsome Earle-Sears.

2) You are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a U.S. citizen than by an immigrant.

Spanberger has been governor for 2 months.

If someone wants to run against Descano, fine. He came close to being primaries last time. But we're referencing police emails from April 2024 which notably was not when Spanberger was governor.

Spamberger wants to hide the illegals and protect them even more so it's going to get worse

Again, immigrants are less likely to commit crimes. ICE is wasting money and time going after 5 year olds instead of following the standard prosecutorial procedures that have been place for decades.

The same party that screams it isn’t a criminal offense to be in the country illegally, needs to recognize that the civil remedy is detaining and deportation.

No prosecution is needed. Detain -> deport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow

Great job this guy should have been deported but even if he wasn't illegal they kept letting him out of jail even murder and then release again

illegal immigrant with a lengthy violent criminal history was accused of killing a mother

https://wjla.com/news/local/could-have-been-prevented-fairfax-police-union-slams-descano-after-womans-murder

1) I’m glad Abigail Spanberger is Governor instead of Winsome Earle-Sears.

2) You are 100 times more likely to be murdered by a U.S. citizen than by an immigrant.

Spanberger has been governor for 2 months.

If someone wants to run against Descano, fine. He came close to being primaries last time. But we're referencing police emails from April 2024 which notably was not when Spanberger was governor.

Spamberger wants to hide the illegals and protect them even more so it's going to get worse

Again, immigrants are less likely to commit crimes. ICE is wasting money and time going after 5 year olds instead of following the standard prosecutorial procedures that have been place for decades.

The same party that screams it isn’t a criminal offense to be in the country illegally, needs to recognize that the civil remedy is detaining and deportation.

No prosecution is needed. Detain -> deport.

ICE is rounding up people who came here properly and are engaging with the system. And of cpure arresting and harassing US citizens. They aren't going after criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stories like this make me glad I moved out of VA. This, and all the other crap that is going on there now.

It’s not just this one case either. It is happening with great frequency.

I'm planning on moving. This state is so messed up they don't even try to hide the courrption and Insanity.

Where do you call home now?

Tennessee. And it is wonderful!! Mountains close by. Lots of land. Great people.

DP. These all sound like reasonable subjective reasons to move, but don’t move because you think crime will be less in Tennessee.

Tennessee vs. Virginia Crime Rates (2024 FBI/State Data, per 100,000 residents)

- Murder/Homicide Rate
Tennessee: ~8–10 (high, driven by cities like Memphis at ~40.6)
Virginia: ~4.8 (declined from prior years)

- Violent Crime Rate (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault)
Tennessee: 592 (top 5 nationally)
Virginia: ~190–234 (well below national average; ~7% drop from 2023)

- Property Crime Rate (burglary, larceny, vehicle theft)
Tennessee: ~2,032 (elevated, esp. in urban areas)
Virginia: Lower (national avg. ~1,760; VA consistently safer)

Bottom line: Tennessee's serious crime rates remain 2–3× higher than Virginia's overall, though both states saw declines in 2024. (Sources: FBI estimates, USAFacts, state reports.)

Tennessean here. Yes - cities like Memphis and recently, Nashville- have driven up the crime rate. The recent crackdown in Memphis with bringing in the National Guard has been very successful. Both cities are governed by democrats- and some of the same liberal policies that have impacted crime rates in other cities are at play here too. Having said that - there are many areas of our state that are very safe for all residents. I’m in East Tennessee and we have wonderful law enforcement and very little crime - property crime or violent crime. I am more fearful of coyote than I am of being a victim of crime.

I was going to say something similar. Remove the crime stats from Memphis and rate is probably the same if not lower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very disappointed that Glen Youngkin did nothing about this. Hopefully Spanberger can address it now that it's come to light

Nice try. You can blame Descano and the other insane prosecutors who care more about criminals than victims. And if you think Spanberger is going to make things better, boy do I have news for you.

Gov. Spanberger's office tells @NickMinock she won't honor an ICE detainer for an illegal alien with 30+ prior arrests, including rape, who is accused of murdering a woman at a bus stop. She wants ICE to get a judicial warrant - which isn't possible unless there is suspicion of *FEDERAL CRIME*. Murder, rape, etc are largely state crimes. It's remarkable how few politicians understand how this works. A federal judicial warrant can only be signed off on by a federal judge if there is probable cause that a FEDERAL CRIME has been committed.

Dude, nobody in their right mind is cooperating with ICE. ICE has burned any good will by shooting citizens in the street, telling egregious lies in the face of mountains of evidence of their misdeeds, tearing gassing infants, and countless other misdeeds. Really, I’m much more concerned about my safety from ICE agents than immigrants.

Hey, friend. Do a little research.
In the cities and states where the leaders cooperate with ICE (and there are many of them), there isn’t violence and very very few issues. You don’t hear about those BECAUSE of the cooperation.
It is the states that DON’T cooperate (like Minnesota and Massachusetts) where the leaders encourage the public to actively resist where issues arise.

You mean like Texas? Bodycam video contradicts ICE claims in fatal shooting of U.S. citizen Ruben Ray Martinez in Texas https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bodycam-video-ice-fatal-shooting-ruben-ray-martinez-texas/

Really, stop trying to defend the indefensible. It just makes you sound like a coward.