Initial Psych Sheet for PVS AGC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are so silly. Go read the papers and become enraged about something else. These are kids and this is amateur swimming. It’s not a college coach violating recruiting rules to snag a swimmer from another college team (oh…wait…most of that is legal even in college now). See how dumb this is for age group club swimming?

No one is 'enraged', just explaining the high # of Hydra entries. These aren't swimmers who were plucked from obscurity and in six months turned into PVS Champs qualifiers, they're kids who've been training at York and are now...re-branded

This.

I don't care about Hydra but they are a York/Hydra hybrid. He took the top swimmers from York. York developed them (in theory).

I am always impressed by a club, any club, that works with kids and gets them to their full potential. Hydra has an impressive number of swimmers but it took those that were already established and from their pipeline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are so silly. Go read the papers and become enraged about something else. These are kids and this is amateur swimming. It’s not a college coach violating recruiting rules to snag a swimmer from another college team (oh…wait…most of that is legal even in college now). See how dumb this is for age group club swimming?

No one is 'enraged', just explaining the high # of Hydra entries. These aren't swimmers who were plucked from obscurity and in six months turned into PVS Champs qualifiers, they're kids who've been training at York and are now...re-branded

This.

I don't care about Hydra but they are a York/Hydra hybrid. He took the top swimmers from York. York developed them (in theory).

I am always impressed by a club, any club, that works with kids and gets them to their full potential. Hydra has an impressive number of swimmers but it took those that were already established and from their pipeline.

But he’s the coach that developed them at York, right? As someone not associated with either club I don’t really understand the need to give York as a club so much credit for swimmers that seem to have been developed by this particular coach. If my kid’s primary coach that developed them from age 10-12 had created a new club we probably would have followed them too.

[Anonymous]

STJS deserves some credit for developing a number of strong swimmers who jumped to AAC, Makos, etc. There are half a dozen or so girls in the meet who started out with them and are very talented swimmers now affiliated with other teams. Keeping them in the fold would have probably doubled their entry total.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:STJS deserves some credit for developing a number of strong swimmers who jumped to AAC, Makos, etc. There are half a dozen or so girls in the meet who started out with them and are very talented swimmers now affiliated with other teams. Keeping them in the fold would have probably doubled their entry total.

How do you figure that out? There is not an easy way to sort that kind of information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STJS deserves some credit for developing a number of strong swimmers who jumped to AAC, Makos, etc. There are half a dozen or so girls in the meet who started out with them and are very talented swimmers now affiliated with other teams. Keeping them in the fold would have probably doubled their entry total.

How do you figure that out? There is not an easy way to sort that kind of information.

My spreadsheet on all my DD’s competitors includes columns for current and former teams.

I also tend to notice kids from small teams when they make finals at a champs meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who are interested, you can find it here: https://www.gomotionapp.com/team/pvma/page/events#/team-events/upcoming/1714378

Thanks for sharing this. Why do some kids have a L time means? For instance, there are 3 kids swimming 50 fly, with a “42.20L.” What does that mean? Is that from the long course time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those who are interested, you can find it here: https://www.gomotionapp.com/team/pvma/page/events#/team-events/upcoming/1714378

Thanks for sharing this. Why do some kids have a L time means? For instance, there are 3 kids swimming 50 fly, with a “42.20L.” What does that mean? Is that from the long course time?

Yes, an L after a seed time means they qualified based on a LC time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STJS deserves some credit for developing a number of strong swimmers who jumped to AAC, Makos, etc. There are half a dozen or so girls in the meet who started out with them and are very talented swimmers now affiliated with other teams. Keeping them in the fold would have probably doubled their entry total.

How do you figure that out? There is not an easy way to sort that kind of information.

It’s becomes obvious when you have a prelims/finals meet, for example, the Winter Classic that STJ attends, as does AAC. When you go to the final sessions and you see all the same kids there a couple years in a row, then the next year same kid, but different club initials next to their name on the scoreboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STJS deserves some credit for developing a number of strong swimmers who jumped to AAC, Makos, etc. There are half a dozen or so girls in the meet who started out with them and are very talented swimmers now affiliated with other teams. Keeping them in the fold would have probably doubled their entry total.

How do you figure that out? There is not an easy way to sort that kind of information.

It’s becomes obvious when you have a prelims/finals meet, for example, the Winter Classic that STJ attends, as does AAC. When you go to the final sessions and you see all the same kids there a couple years in a row, then the next year same kid, but different club initials next to their name on the scoreboard.

I know one kid who left STJ for AAC this year. She was originally at AAC and returned years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are so silly. Go read the papers and become enraged about something else. These are kids and this is amateur swimming. It’s not a college coach violating recruiting rules to snag a swimmer from another college team (oh…wait…most of that is legal even in college now). See how dumb this is for age group club swimming?

No one is 'enraged', just explaining the high # of Hydra entries. These aren't swimmers who were plucked from obscurity and in six months turned into PVS Champs qualifiers, they're kids who've been training at York and are now...re-branded

This.

I don't care about Hydra but they are a York/Hydra hybrid. He took the top swimmers from York. York developed them (in theory).

I am always impressed by a club, any club, that works with kids and gets them to their full potential. Hydra has an impressive number of swimmers but it took those that were already established and from their pipeline.

But he’s the coach that developed them at York, right? As someone not associated with either club I don’t really understand the need to give York as a club so much credit for swimmers that seem to have been developed by this particular coach. If my kid’s primary coach that developed them from age 10-12 had created a new club we probably would have followed them too.

Yes, this is what happened. The 9/10/11s were with this coach for 2-3 years at York then moved to Hydra, with same coach.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know which days the girls are swimming in the main pool? I would rather not be timing on the gangplank of the dive pool so trying to pick my volunteer slot when the girls are in the main pool.

[Anonymous]

Thursday-Final pool
Friday-dive pool
Saturday-Final pool
Sunday-Dive pool,

Boys are the opposite

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thursday-Final pool
Friday-dive pool
Saturday-Final pool
Sunday-Dive pool,

Boys are the opposite

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Any word on parking during prelims on Friday? TTG isn’t available until 4pm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any word on parking during prelims on Friday? TTG isn’t available until 4pm.

You have to find a pay lot. I like the one across from the Y cafeteria-- then we can eat there before heading home.