Do unhooked T10 admits during RD all have insane ECs or flawless transcripts?

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Anonymous wrote:The kid who ran the tables (5 Ivies plus Stanford, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc) in RD from our top private was a 4.0 (the school generally only graduates a 4.0 kid once every 5 years), 1600 etc.

Our private wouldn’t let someone run the table all. But similar kid at ours got into HYPS and Northwestern and Penn.

Yeah, they got deferred ED/SCEA and then applied everywhere. It isn't commonly done at this high school (kids generally don't want to screw over their classmates) and a lot of people were not happy about this kid doing it and college guidance did not refuse to send the transcripts.

Just sharing for purpose of this post-- this are the stats of a kid who got a lot of RD acceptances.

I don't get why people would be unhappy about him applying to more colleges in the RD round, after being deferred in the early round? Geez. That is some serious policing there.

I agree. It sucks for the rest of the class, obviously. But the kid didn't do anything wrong. The process is absolutely unpredictable (hence OP's question) and the deferral put that kid in a position where they needed to apply widely because it was impossible to know how it would play out in RD. Sucks for everyone involved.

Meanwhile, we have a kid at our school who is in SCEA at Stanford (or whatever they call non-binding early action there), but still trying to run the table on the T20.

But like most things, it's not black and white - there are multiple factors at play. DC recognizes that yes, this kid has always been a status hound. But there's also a financial component. Though merit aid is rare and hard to land at the T20 schools, it does exist. Nothing wrong with the kid taking a shot at that as it would be a massive factor in his (and his family's) decision.

Ultimately, we're opting to take the high road when it comes to other kids' and families' choices. Nobody's looking to screw their classmates over - they're just trying to navigate an inherently unpredictable an inefficient process. Live and let live.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who ran the tables (5 Ivies plus Stanford, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc) in RD from our top private was a 4.0 (the school generally only graduates a 4.0 kid once every 5 years), 1600 etc.

Our private wouldn’t let someone run the table all. But similar kid at ours got into HYPS and Northwestern and Penn.

Yeah, they got deferred ED/SCEA and then applied everywhere. It isn't commonly done at this high school (kids generally don't want to screw over their classmates) and a lot of people were not happy about this kid doing it and college guidance did not refuse to send the transcripts.

Just sharing for purpose of this post-- this are the stats of a kid who got a lot of RD acceptances.

I don't get why people would be unhappy about him applying to more colleges in the RD round, after being deferred in the early round? Geez. That is some serious policing there.

Most people on this forum think everyone else should sacrifice to improve their kid’s already infinitesimal chance of being accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who ran the tables (5 Ivies plus Stanford, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc) in RD from our top private was a 4.0 (the school generally only graduates a 4.0 kid once every 5 years), 1600 etc.

Our private wouldn’t let someone run the table all. But similar kid at ours got into HYPS and Northwestern and Penn.

Yeah, they got deferred ED/SCEA and then applied everywhere. It isn't commonly done at this high school (kids generally don't want to screw over their classmates) and a lot of people were not happy about this kid doing it and college guidance did not refuse to send the transcripts.

Just sharing for purpose of this post-- this are the stats of a kid who got a lot of RD acceptances.

Why would college counseling stop them from applying everywhere RD?

[Anonymous]

Sorry- what does "run the table" mean?

- Parent of public school kid who applied to top 50 and higher schools.

[Anonymous]

Many in RD round are institutional priorities too

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Anonymous wrote:Many in RD round are institutional priorities too

+1 Or have a compelling hard-luck tale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who ran the tables (5 Ivies plus Stanford, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc) in RD from our top private was a 4.0 (the school generally only graduates a 4.0 kid once every 5 years), 1600 etc.

Our private wouldn’t let someone run the table all. But similar kid at ours got into HYPS and Northwestern and Penn.

Yeah, they got deferred ED/SCEA and then applied everywhere. It isn't commonly done at this high school (kids generally don't want to screw over their classmates) and a lot of people were not happy about this kid doing it and college guidance did not refuse to send the transcripts.

Just sharing for purpose of this post-- this are the stats of a kid who got a lot of RD acceptances.

I don't get why people would be unhappy about him applying to more colleges in the RD round, after being deferred in the early round? Geez. That is some serious policing there.

I agree. It sucks for the rest of the class, obviously. But the kid didn't do anything wrong. The process is absolutely unpredictable (hence OP's question) and the deferral put that kid in a position where they needed to apply widely because it was impossible to know how it would play out in RD. Sucks for everyone involved.

Meanwhile, we have a kid at our school who is in SCEA at Stanford (or whatever they call non-binding early action there), but still trying to run the table on the T20.

But like most things, it's not black and white - there are multiple factors at play. DC recognizes that yes, this kid has always been a status hound. But there's also a financial component. Though merit aid is rare and hard to land at the T20 schools, it does exist. Nothing wrong with the kid taking a shot at that as it would be a massive factor in his (and his family's) decision.

Ultimately, we're opting to take the high road when it comes to other kids' and families' choices. Nobody's looking to screw their classmates over - they're just trying to navigate an inherently unpredictable an inefficient process. Live and let live.

There's really no excuse for this. The Net price calculators are remarkably accurate and honestly aid does not vary that much or at all between top10 schools. My kid was admitted to 4 and the aid packages came in within $2K of each other and always followed each school's calculator.
This kid is a prestige hunting jerk. I hope he leaves high school without any friends. It sounds like this will be the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry- what does "run the table" mean?

- Parent of public school kid who applied to top 50 and higher schools.

Running the table is a sports term from pool. If you run the table you win every pool game one after another. Example: A kid gets into HYPS in the early round, which is non-binding, and then proceeds to apply to a ton of other top 20 schools. These kids tend to be superstars and will then be accepted at Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Vanderbilt, Michigan, Berkeley, etc.. Then in April they decline all these schools for the original early HYPS admit. It sucks for other top kids that are not quite as amazing because the top 20 schools may only take 1 kid a year from their school. Private schools try and stop this so that the top school admits are spread around a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who ran the tables (5 Ivies plus Stanford, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern, etc) in RD from our top private was a 4.0 (the school generally only graduates a 4.0 kid once every 5 years), 1600 etc.

Our private wouldn’t let someone run the table all. But similar kid at ours got into HYPS and Northwestern and Penn.

Yeah, they got deferred ED/SCEA and then applied everywhere. It isn't commonly done at this high school (kids generally don't want to screw over their classmates) and a lot of people were not happy about this kid doing it and college guidance did not refuse to send the transcripts.

Just sharing for purpose of this post-- this are the stats of a kid who got a lot of RD acceptances.

I don't get why people would be unhappy about him applying to more colleges in the RD round, after being deferred in the early round? Geez. That is some serious policing there.

I agree. It sucks for the rest of the class, obviously. But the kid didn't do anything wrong. The process is absolutely unpredictable (hence OP's question) and the deferral put that kid in a position where they needed to apply widely because it was impossible to know how it would play out in RD. Sucks for everyone involved.

Meanwhile, we have a kid at our school who is in SCEA at Stanford (or whatever they call non-binding early action there), but still trying to run the table on the T20.

But like most things, it's not black and white - there are multiple factors at play. DC recognizes that yes, this kid has always been a status hound. But there's also a financial component. Though merit aid is rare and hard to land at the T20 schools, it does exist. Nothing wrong with the kid taking a shot at that as it would be a massive factor in his (and his family's) decision.

Ultimately, we're opting to take the high road when it comes to other kids' and families' choices. Nobody's looking to screw their classmates over - they're just trying to navigate an inherently unpredictable an inefficient process. Live and let live.

There's really no excuse for this. The Net price calculators are remarkably accurate and honestly aid does not vary that much or at all between top10 schools. My kid was admitted to 4 and the aid packages came in within $2K of each other and always followed each school's calculator.
This kid is a prestige hunting jerk. I hope he leaves high school without any friends. It sounds like this will be the case.

Opps. My kid was admitted to 4 top20 schools. Not all were top10. Just to clarify.

[Anonymous]

A comment up thread suggested schools can prevent a kid from running the tables by refusing to send transcripts. Thus, making the gratuitous applications incomplete.

I imagine this is more threat than actual practice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry- what does "run the table" mean?

- Parent of public school kid who applied to top 50 and higher schools.

Top stats kid who ends up getting into many, many T10/20 in RD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many in RD round are institutional priorities too

I saw a good description of IP in an ingenious prep post and the link someone posted from Mr. Hoffman's YouTube. Eye-opening bc all of the "initials" were IPs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry- what does "run the table" mean?

- Parent of public school kid who applied to top 50 and higher schools.

Running the table is a sports term from pool. If you run the table you win every pool game one after another. Example: A kid gets into HYPS in the early round, which is non-binding, and then proceeds to apply to a ton of other top 20 schools. These kids tend to be superstars and will then be accepted at Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Columbia, Vanderbilt, Michigan, Berkeley, etc.. Then in April they decline all these schools for the original early HYPS admit. It sucks for other top kids that are not quite as amazing because the top 20 schools may only take 1 kid a year from their school. Private schools try and stop this so that the top school admits are spread around a bit.

PP here. Thanks for explaining in a thorough and non-snarky way!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:some of this, yes.
mine didn't have national award but more or less had the rest of what you listed. but nothing done for college resume sake, all just whatever she wanted to spend their time doing.
yes, she also has an amazing friend group, goes to prom/homecoming, and has a boyfriend. spends time with us parents and with siblings. was also doing daily intensive treatment of a medical issue throughout high school. and still has plenty of free time to hang out, watch movies, go out for walks, play HS sports. it's the kids who still have tons of free time despite having flawless transcripts/great ECs - those are the ones getting in unhooked.

This mine in unhooked top 10, school comes naturally, no studying for the most part and is able to process things quicky and 36 ACT one sitting and refused to really prep for testing. SAT math was "super easy." Schools can tell who is natural or who is genuine, for the most part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:some of this, yes.
mine didn't have national award but more or less had the rest of what you listed. but nothing done for college resume sake, all just whatever she wanted to spend their time doing.
yes, she also has an amazing friend group, goes to prom/homecoming, and has a boyfriend. spends time with us parents and with siblings. was also doing daily intensive treatment of a medical issue throughout high school. and still has plenty of free time to hang out, watch movies, go out for walks, play HS sports. it's the kids who still have tons of free time despite having flawless transcripts/great ECs - those are the ones getting in unhooked.

This mine in unhooked top 10, school comes naturally, no studying for the most part and is able to process things quicky and 36 ACT one sitting and refused to really prep for testing. SAT math was "super easy." Schools can tell who is natural or who is genuine, for the most part.

Very true.

But they still have needs for a lot of other people who fall into other categories. Esp if RD and the class is over-weighted on STEM, math, CS, Engineering etc.....