UMD President Scholarship

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We a were offered the max OOS merit and we are full pay/did not apply for aid I’m wondering why PP thinks ability to pay is part of merit.

UMD must really want this OOS kid so giving kid more than they need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We a were offered the max OOS merit and we are full pay/did not apply for aid I’m wondering why PP thinks ability to pay is part of merit.

UMD must really want this OOS kid so giving kid more than they need.

I think they considered cost for OOS versus in-state when making these offers. It is not about the OOS kids being better per se.

Because we are Maryland residents, UVA would have to offered DD a lot more before she would even consider them compared to UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

[Anonymous]

Or maybe they use these scholarships to attract good OOS students. The 1600 in-state kids will pick UMD because of cost against a top private school. We speak $130k vs ~400k, so an extra few thousands off will not make any judgement difference if you have the money.
UMD like all other schools master this process now. They have prior year stats and know exactly to whom to give the scholarships to maximize they chances. Would be too simple to get the top X students base in the stats. Only a fraction will end up choosing UMD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

It is true.
Every year about 1/3 of Blair's STEM students (25-30) have these kind of stats. They are accepted in the Honors College but only few receive UMD scholarships. Most f them pick private colleges (MIT, CMU, Cornell).
Ask any of the kids there and he/she will confirm.
My daughter is a senior there. I know for sure it is a valid comment.

[Anonymous]

Our non-magnet MCPS DD with top stats was invited to honors but did not get merit. 1570, NMF, 3.98 UW, 20 AP/DE with all A’s/5’s, math through MVC, LA, DE, advanced college chemistry classes, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

Not true

+1 we had more than enough to cover UMD in state, but DC still got 5K/yr merit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

Not true

It is only $1500 for the first year, not 2k. Stats are correct and proven. The kid is a senior at Blair. Many others with similar stats didn't get anything.

but others with high stats with enough in the 529 to cover in state did get 5K. I get why you make this assumption but it's not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

It is true.
Every year about 1/3 of Blair's STEM students (25-30) have these kind of stats. They are accepted in the Honors College but only few receive UMD scholarships. Most f them pick private colleges (MIT, CMU, Cornell).
Ask any of the kids there and he/she will confirm.
My daughter is a senior there. I know for sure it is a valid comment.

again, not true. There are people (my kid) who got the full 5k. RMIB magnet.

IMO, merit aid is like college admissions - it's opaque as to who gets it.

[Anonymous]

We are full pay, OOS, didn’t apply for aid. $12k/year scholarship offer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OOS. $12k/year.

Stats?

1590 SAT, 4.0UW, 4.6W. (Didn’t quite max out APs to take music each year)

Separately, did they get Honors and do they plan to honors?

They did get honors, but I don’t think they’ll accept UMD. At this point, UVA Echols seems like the better opportunity since we live in state.

UVA and UMD should have an agreement for balanced trade in choosing OOS over IS applicants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

It is true.
Every year about 1/3 of Blair's STEM students (25-30) have these kind of stats. They are accepted in the Honors College but only few receive UMD scholarships. Most f them pick private colleges (MIT, CMU, Cornell).
Ask any of the kids there and he/she will confirm.
My daughter is a senior there. I know for sure it is a valid comment.

again, not true. There are people (my kid) who got the full 5k. RMIB magnet.

IMO, merit aid is like college admissions - it's opaque as to who gets it.

The part you think is not true is the merit aid and 529 supposition. Right?
That's a guess and I agree the criteria is opaque and it is not only stats based. There are few kids at Blair that got the BK and also the President scholarship. But they are few and not necessarily the top of the top. They know very well each others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

Our DC also got the max. We were/are full pay and did not submit the FAFSA.

Stats: Blair magnet, 4.0UW / 4.8W GPA, 1600 SAT, 10 APs all 5s, highly skilled in a musical instrument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stats are important but parents ability to pay is also considered even if they call them merit scholarships. I know a kid with max stats (1600, 4.0/4.95) that got only a Dean scholarship (2k only for the first year). Parents have 529 fully founded to cover all UMD in-state costs.

I don't think this is true. DD is fully funded in 529 and high stats, we make solid money where we would not get financial aid, and she seems to have gotten max possible.

It is true.
Every year about 1/3 of Blair's STEM students (25-30) have these kind of stats. They are accepted in the Honors College but only few receive UMD scholarships. Most f them pick private colleges (MIT, CMU, Cornell).
Ask any of the kids there and he/she will confirm.
My daughter is a senior there. I know for sure it is a valid comment.

again, not true. There are people (my kid) who got the full 5k. RMIB magnet.

IMO, merit aid is like college admissions - it's opaque as to who gets it.

The part you think is not true is the merit aid and 529 supposition. Right?
That's a guess and I agree the criteria is opaque and it is not only stats based. There are few kids at Blair that got the BK and also the President scholarship. But they are few and not necessarily the top of the top. They know very well each others.

Yes, BK especially is holistic and not just merit based.

I know of a Blair magnet kid who has an amazing ec but was denied at T10 for CS, and they only got the 5K from UMD, not BK.

[Anonymous]

HS 2023 OOS CS direct admit, Honors College, $10k/yr. Didnt apply for need based FA.