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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Taylor is committing unforced errors throughout this whole process. He is tone deaf to community concerns.

We'll see how this ALL works out.


But they’re not unforced errors. However, he is tone deaf (or intentionally deaf) because he had his mind made up since last November. He is expecting the BOE to rubber stamp his recommendation and hide behind them (since they’re the ones actually elected by the parents he has pissed off).
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Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


That makes no sense. If they are going to use Crown as a high school after it is used as a holding school first, they will have to move kids from other high schools into. Children aren't literal plants that you can grow in a school by planting seeds in the football field.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


That makes no sense. If they are going to use Crown as a high school after it is used as a holding school first, they will have to move kids from other high schools into. Children aren't literal plants that you can grow in a school by planting seeds in the football field.


No, QO and GHS (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) were promised Crown before Option H. Their overcrowding would have filled a significant number of spots at Crown. The remaining excess capacity would be used to hold students from Damascus and Magruder as each of those schools go through phased renovations (not all students red to be moved out).

Instead, Taylor is giving 2000 of the 2700 spots at Crown to Wootton kids, screwing QO and GHS kids (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) by giving them only 700 spots at Crown. He did so because he claims he has no money to operate Wootton as a school building anymore(but he does because he wants to use it as a holding school instead of his shiny new Crown).

This is why there is almost universal opposition to Option H.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


That makes no sense. If they are going to use Crown as a high school after it is used as a holding school first, they will have to move kids from other high schools into. Children aren't literal plants that you can grow in a school by planting seeds in the football field.


No, QO and GHS (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) were promised Crown before Option H. Their overcrowding would have filled a significant number of spots at Crown. The remaining excess capacity would be used to hold students from Damascus and Magruder as each of those schools go through phased renovations (not all students red to be moved out).

Instead, Taylor is giving 2000 of the 2700 spots at Crown to Wootton kids, screwing QO and GHS kids (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) by giving them only 700 spots at Crown. He did so because he claims he has no money to operate Wootton as a school building anymore(but he does because he wants to use it as a holding school instead of his shiny new Crown).

This is why there is almost universal opposition to Option H.


A school that's partially a tiny regular high school and partially a holding school for an entirely different school? How would that even work?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


That makes no sense. If they are going to use Crown as a high school after it is used as a holding school first, they will have to move kids from other high schools into. Children aren't literal plants that you can grow in a school by planting seeds in the football field.


No, QO and GHS (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) were promised Crown before Option H. Their overcrowding would have filled a significant number of spots at Crown. The remaining excess capacity would be used to hold students from Damascus and Magruder as each of those schools go through phased renovations (not all students red to be moved out).

Instead, Taylor is giving 2000 of the 2700 spots at Crown to Wootton kids, screwing QO and GHS kids (plus other high schools in the Gaithersburg area) by giving them only 700 spots at Crown. He did so because he claims he has no money to operate Wootton as a school building anymore(but he does because he wants to use it as a holding school instead of his shiny new Crown).

This is why there is almost universal opposition to Option H.


A school that's partially a tiny regular high school and partially a holding school for an entirely different school? How would that even work?


Not a tiny regular school. The majority of Crown would be permanent students with the excess capacity used for portions of a high school undergoing phased renovation. Think about a 4-year renovation - each class year is moved individually and temporarily - that way, only a portion need transportation to the holding school (making it easier on families and school staff) and there is no wholesale uprooting of the entire student population (eg 2000+ kids)

A phased high school renovation is a construction approach that updates or expands a school in multiple stages while keeping the school operational. This method minimizes disruptions for students and staff by allowing parts of the school to be renovated at different times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


Where do you see that Taylor has the money or a timeline to renovate Wootton as a holding school?

The only portion of the recommendation that addresses using the current site of Wootton as a holding school is one sentence: "The current site on Wootton Parkway will be used as a holding site for schools to allow for major construction projects as well as smaller projects such as roof replacements or Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) projects that usually occur over multiple phases, potentially accelerating secondary capital projects."

There's been no planning for which schools, in which order, would use a holding school. Meanwhile, Crown will be ready to open in 1.5 years.

It's not a good use of a brand new school to sit vacant while the Wootton site continues to fall apart.

With perfect hindsight, Crown shouldn't have been built and the building at Wootton shouldn't have been allowed to deteriorate as far as it has. But with the current situation (brand new building in Gaithersburg, falling apart building in Rockville), it makes perfect sense and the best use of resources to move Wootton to the Crown site and
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


Where do you see that Taylor has the money or a timeline to renovate Wootton as a holding school?

The only portion of the recommendation that addresses using the current site of Wootton as a holding school is one sentence: "The current site on Wootton Parkway will be used as a holding site for schools to allow for major construction projects as well as smaller projects such as roof replacements or Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) projects that usually occur over multiple phases, potentially accelerating secondary capital projects."

There's been no planning for which schools, in which order, would use a holding school. Meanwhile, Crown will be ready to open in 1.5 years.

It's not a good use of a brand new school to sit vacant while the Wootton site continues to fall apart.

With perfect hindsight, Crown shouldn't have been built and the building at Wootton shouldn't have been allowed to deteriorate as far as it has. But with the current situation (brand new building in Gaithersburg, falling apart building in Rockville), it makes perfect sense and the best use of resources to move Wootton to the Crown site and


None of the options left Crown vacant. It was choice whether Crown or Wootton would serve as a holding school. Because Taylor is planning to use Wootton as a holding school, there is money to do so. Therefore, why close Wootton, change the boundaries, and move its kids to Crown? The only reason is that Taylor wants Wootton kids at Crown, rather than a majority student population made up of QO, GHS, and other Gaithersburg schools, along with the remaining portion used as a holding school. That would clearly demonstrate MCPS’ incompetence in building Crown. There are BOE and County Council elections coming up, and the Crown developers would be very unhappy with the members of both.
Anonymous
Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crown never should have been built.


Oh in that case I am going to go get my time machine, thank you!


Fine, let’s use Crown as a holding school. Taylor already has money to fix up and claims that he needs to operate Wootton as a holding school, so why move it or the Wootton boundaries at all? Crown seems line the perfect place to use as a holding school. The excess capacity can be used for 5-10 years while other high schools are renovated and remediated, at which point Crown will have grown it’s student population organically.


Where do you see that Taylor has the money or a timeline to renovate Wootton as a holding school?

The only portion of the recommendation that addresses using the current site of Wootton as a holding school is one sentence: "The current site on Wootton Parkway will be used as a holding site for schools to allow for major construction projects as well as smaller projects such as roof replacements or Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) projects that usually occur over multiple phases, potentially accelerating secondary capital projects."

There's been no planning for which schools, in which order, would use a holding school. Meanwhile, Crown will be ready to open in 1.5 years.

It's not a good use of a brand new school to sit vacant while the Wootton site continues to fall apart.

With perfect hindsight, Crown shouldn't have been built and the building at Wootton shouldn't have been allowed to deteriorate as far as it has. But with the current situation (brand new building in Gaithersburg, falling apart building in Rockville), it makes perfect sense and the best use of resources to move Wootton to the Crown site and


None of the options left Crown vacant. It was choice whether Crown or Wootton would serve as a holding school. Because Taylor is planning to use Wootton as a holding school, there is money to do so. Therefore, why close Wootton, change the boundaries, and move its kids to Crown? The only reason is that Taylor wants Wootton kids at Crown, rather than a majority student population made up of QO, GHS, and other Gaithersburg schools, along with the remaining portion used as a holding school. That would clearly demonstrate MCPS’ incompetence in building Crown. There are BOE and County Council elections coming up, and the Crown developers would be very unhappy with the members of both.


The superintendent has a plan to use Wootton as a holding school in the future. There's currently no money set aside for that purpose now and there's no plan to use any site as a holding school by 2027-2028. In the meantime, Wootton needs repairs, which are not budgeted for. So, sure, there may be money for Wootton's renovations in the future, but not in time for the students to continue classes in a building that's falling apart in 2027.

Building Crown ended up not being necessary given the declining enrollment, but that money is spent and the building will be built. The only question now is how best to use it and using it to house a permanent body of students is the best use.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.


Exactly. So there is precedent to use Crown as a holding school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.


Exactly. So there is precedent to use Crown as a holding school.


As well as a precedent to use Wootton as a holding school and then re-open as a high school if enrollment recovers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.


Exactly. So there is precedent to use Crown as a holding school.


As well as a precedent to use Wootton as a holding school and then re-open as a high school if enrollment recovers.


So you’re admitting that MCPS is closing Wootton. Glad we agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.


Exactly. So there is precedent to use Crown as a holding school.


As well as a precedent to use Wootton as a holding school and then re-open as a high school if enrollment recovers.


So you’re admitting that MCPS is closing Wootton. Glad we agree.


No... 5 out of the 6 elementary schools are still part of the Wootton school boundaries. If the plan goes through, it's going to move all the teachers and administrators to the new site. If it was truly a closure, all those administrators and teachers would be dispersed into the rest of MCPS.

Montgomery Blair moved out of its original building to its new location. The old building was renovated and then re-opened as a combination elementary school / middle school, nobody called that a closure of Blair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Woodward is currently being used as a holding school for Northwood.


Exactly. So there is precedent to use Crown as a holding school.


As well as a precedent to use Wootton as a holding school and then re-open as a high school if enrollment recovers.


So you’re admitting that MCPS is closing Wootton. Glad we agree.


No... 5 out of the 6 elementary schools are still part of the Wootton school boundaries. If the plan goes through, it's going to move all the teachers and administrators to the new site. If it was truly a closure, all those administrators and teachers would be dispersed into the rest of MCPS.

Montgomery Blair moved out of its original building to its new location. The old building was renovated and then re-opened as a combination elementary school / middle school, nobody called that a closure of Blair.


Good point. The old Blair became Silver Spring International MS and Sligo Elementary. The new Blair is several miles from the original school building, so there is precedent for moving kids away from their current school location.
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