JHU vs Williams ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:hmmm. is he social?
Williams.

The athletes at Hopkins tend to be very social and active in Greek life (other than lacrosse, who are their own fraternity/sorority anyway).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my DC is being recruited by both of these schools for their sport. Two wildly different schools, I know I know but top academics certainly at both, and DC really likes coach/team at both. And yes the athletic part is important - but it seems to be a wash. So which school wins out based on the “broken leg test” - if DC decides or can’t compete on the team at some point. They will be an econ major and don’t have a direction in terms of career interest, other than vaguely “finance” or “consulting”, which they know very little about

any thoughts? pros cons?

Econ, Consulting, Finance.....Williams all the way if IB, MBB might be in the future. The top NESCAC schools for IB (Williams, Middlebury, Amherst) place extremely well into these areas while JHU is a low-semi target and not as present in the industry.

These career paths have no future in the AI era. Dead end. Let me repeat. DEAD END.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:will need SAT of 1450-1500 for a D3 sport at JHU, Williams T/O

1500 baseline for most sports. Williams is actually about the same though it looks easier and can be easier if you are at the top of their lists. NESCAC recruiting rules basically ensure that at least half of the athletes overall and many more for some sports exceed the school average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my DC is being recruited by both of these schools for their sport. Two wildly different schools, I know I know but top academics certainly at both, and DC really likes coach/team at both. And yes the athletic part is important - but it seems to be a wash. So which school wins out based on the “broken leg test” - if DC decides or can’t compete on the team at some point. They will be an econ major and don’t have a direction in terms of career interest, other than vaguely “finance” or “consulting”, which they know very little about

any thoughts? pros cons?

Econ, Consulting, Finance.....Williams all the way if IB, MBB might be in the future. The top NESCAC schools for IB (Williams, Middlebury, Amherst) place extremely well into these areas while JHU is a low-semi target and not as present in the industry.

These career paths have no future in the AI era. Dead end. Let me repeat. DEAD END.

Pretty sure that you're wrong on that one. They will just pivot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Hopkins athletes in the finance world.

They don't do bad, especially the lax players but they aren't nearly at the level of Williams, Middlebury, and Amherst who all place better than half of the Ivies.

[Anonymous]

I would spend some time with each team, do an overnight and really talk to the athletes. Being an athlete has so much to do with team dynamics. Is it a positive group, good coach? Both are good schools, but the team dynamics will be what determines your DCs enjoyment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

OP here - don’t want to name the sport, but it’s not lacrosse or football - and he’s not the heavy partying type and would worry that the Williams pipeline to the street is mostly for the bro brah helmet sport kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

+1 Plus it's a superior UG educational model to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

OP here - don’t want to name the sport, but it’s not lacrosse or football - and he’s not the heavy partying type and would worry that the Williams pipeline to the street is mostly for the bro brah helmet sport kids?

Right. And what happens to the non-athlete Econ bros?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

OP here - don’t want to name the sport, but it’s not lacrosse or football - and he’s not the heavy partying type and would worry that the Williams pipeline to the street is mostly for the bro brah helmet sport kids?

Right. And what happens to the non-athlete Econ bros?

much much different outcomes - the majority of Williams alumns on the street are jocks. And not tennis players or cross country runners

[Anonymous]

You’re fine if it’s tennis or golf. Great connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re fine if it’s tennis or golf. Great connections.

What about swimmers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both are excellent schools. See what he thinks after the official visits and offers.

Huge difference for an athlete Econ major. iYKYK.

I get it. Some schools being an athlete leads to much better career outcomes than others, especially for finance, econ etc. Williams is one of them.

My kid talked to them but needed a big athletic scholarship and Williams as a D3 doesn't offer them.

100%. Williams is the winner here - provided the kid is social and will mix well with that jock-finance crowd.

OP here - don’t want to name the sport, but it’s not lacrosse or football - and he’s not the heavy partying type and would worry that the Williams pipeline to the street is mostly for the bro brah helmet sport kids?

Right. And what happens to the non-athlete Econ bros?

much much different outcomes - the majority of Williams alumns on the street are jocks. And not tennis players or cross country runners

Are they pursuing PhD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my DC is being recruited by both of these schools for their sport. Two wildly different schools, I know I know but top academics certainly at both, and DC really likes coach/team at both. And yes the athletic part is important - but it seems to be a wash. So which school wins out based on the “broken leg test” - if DC decides or can’t compete on the team at some point. They will be an econ major and don’t have a direction in terms of career interest, other than vaguely “finance” or “consulting”, which they know very little about

any thoughts? pros cons?

Econ, Consulting, Finance.....Williams all the way if IB, MBB might be in the future. The top NESCAC schools for IB (Williams, Middlebury, Amherst) place extremely well into these areas while JHU is a low-semi target and not as present in the industry.

These career paths have no future in the AI era. Dead end. Let me repeat. DEAD END.

I can't speak to finance but agree 100% on consulting. It's dead. Don't make college decisions based on hoping to be a consultant.