Kathy Ruemmler. How could she???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what it will take for some of you morons to accept that no one high up in politics or business gets there the honest way. Phone calls by powerbrokers are the only way to go from reasonably successful to elite. Those powerbrokers' favor is invariably secured through illicit acts that signal total loyalty and compromise, including sexual favors, sex trafficking, passing on insider tips, burying newsworthy stories etc. for the powerbroker.

Louder for everyone in the back. But this crowd is kind of resistant to learning.

I honestly refuse to believe that any adult who does anything useful for a living is so naïve. I think a lot of these pearl clutchers are themselves the creatures of various powerbrokers (or aspire to ride the coattails of powerbrokers) and are trying to prevent regular folks from knowing how the sausage is made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She consulted with Epstein about her affair with a married man:

https://www.jmail.world/thread/EFTA02498273?view=inbox

It’s him
https://www.steptoe.com/en/lawyers/reid-weingarten.html

Power in America: just a lot of unattractive people f-ing whoever will have them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She consulted with Epstein about her affair with a married man:

https://www.jmail.world/thread/EFTA02498273?view=inbox

She got mad that her affair partners equally deluded wife had the nerve to send her a poorly executed passive aggressive put down declaring the affair o-v-e-r.

This is like the joke “the aristocrats” but turned on its ear in a big way.

Umm explain what you mean?

The email from the wife is sad. All of these people are awful.

The letter from the wife is just delusional. The man is awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what it will take for some of you morons to accept that no one high up in politics or business gets there the honest way. Phone calls by powerbrokers are the only way to go from reasonably successful to elite. Those powerbrokers' favor is invariably secured through illicit acts that signal total loyalty and compromise, including sexual favors, sex trafficking, passing on insider tips, burying newsworthy stories etc. for the powerbroker.

Louder for everyone in the back. But this crowd is kind of resistant to learning.

I honestly refuse to believe that any adult who does anything useful for a living is so naïve. I think a lot of these pearl clutchers are themselves the creatures of various powerbrokers (or aspire to ride the coattails of powerbrokers) and are trying to prevent regular folks from knowing how the sausage is made.

OMG. Come off it. Yes, we know how the sausage is made. Far more than you in your reddit chatroom spouting conspiracy theories ever will. And we also know that not all powerful people are publicly affiliating with known child molesters or involved in trafficking rings.

Not all powerful people are billionaires. And not all of them are lacking a scintilla of morality like most of the people in these files.

The problem is people like you who act like this is normal or business as usual. That's what protected these men for all these years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what it will take for some of you morons to accept that no one high up in politics or business gets there the honest way. Phone calls by powerbrokers are the only way to go from reasonably successful to elite. Those powerbrokers' favor is invariably secured through illicit acts that signal total loyalty and compromise, including sexual favors, sex trafficking, passing on insider tips, burying newsworthy stories etc. for the powerbroker.

Louder for everyone in the back. But this crowd is kind of resistant to learning.

I honestly refuse to believe that any adult who does anything useful for a living is so naïve. I think a lot of these pearl clutchers are themselves the creatures of various powerbrokers (or aspire to ride the coattails of powerbrokers) and are trying to prevent regular folks from knowing how the sausage is made.

OMG. Come off it. Yes, we know how the sausage is made. Far more than you in your reddit chatroom spouting conspiracy theories ever will. And we also know that not all powerful people are publicly affiliating with known child molesters or involved in trafficking rings.

Not all powerful people are billionaires. And not all of them are lacking a scintilla of morality like most of the people in these files.

The problem is people like you who act like this is normal or business as usual. That's what protected these men for all these years.

OK! If you need to believe that one can amass real power (an endeavor that very quickly requires making amoral and immoral choices, and turning a blind eye to similar choices by others) without putting aside moral considerations, then go for it! Whatever gets you through the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what it will take for some of you morons to accept that no one high up in politics or business gets there the honest way. Phone calls by powerbrokers are the only way to go from reasonably successful to elite. Those powerbrokers' favor is invariably secured through illicit acts that signal total loyalty and compromise, including sexual favors, sex trafficking, passing on insider tips, burying newsworthy stories etc. for the powerbroker.

Louder for everyone in the back. But this crowd is kind of resistant to learning.

I honestly refuse to believe that any adult who does anything useful for a living is so naïve. I think a lot of these pearl clutchers are themselves the creatures of various powerbrokers (or aspire to ride the coattails of powerbrokers) and are trying to prevent regular folks from knowing how the sausage is made.

OMG. Come off it. Yes, we know how the sausage is made. Far more than you in your reddit chatroom spouting conspiracy theories ever will. And we also know that not all powerful people are publicly affiliating with known child molesters or involved in trafficking rings.

Not all powerful people are billionaires. And not all of them are lacking a scintilla of morality like most of the people in these files.

The problem is people like you who act like this is normal or business as usual. That's what protected these men for all these years.

OK! If you need to believe that one can amass real power (an endeavor that very quickly requires making amoral and immoral choices, and turning a blind eye to similar choices by others) without putting aside moral considerations, then go for it! Whatever gets you through the day.

I guess it depends on what you mean by “real power”. Kathy R is general counsel of GS. Whooptie doo. Do you consider her to possess “real power”?

I know several people worth hundreds of millions and I know one billionaire. They aren’t in the files. Do they have “real power”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She consulted with Epstein about her affair with a married man:

https://www.jmail.world/thread/EFTA02498273?view=inbox

She got mad that her affair partners equally deluded wife had the nerve to send her a poorly executed passive aggressive put down declaring the affair o-v-e-r.

This is like the joke “the aristocrats” but turned on its ear in a big way.

Umm explain what you mean?

The email from the wife is sad. All of these people are awful.

+1. The wife email is sad. It’s basically please stay away from my weak husband for the sake of our marriage and our kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really disappointed. There's no way she didn't know who he was. Do I think she is a pedo? No. But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts. She turned a blind eye to who he was. He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser. I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.

Catering to people like Epstein are how you get where she is, unless you come from a very powerful family full of people like...Epstein.

A lot of you really don't want to accept how power and the acquisition of power work. Is it that you're scared to face how power works or does it hurt too much to accept that personal brilliance and hard work won't get you there?

You don’t believe a woman can become general counsel at a global financial institution without kissing a pedophile’s a$$?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really disappointed. There's no way she didn't know who he was. Do I think she is a pedo? No. But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts. She turned a blind eye to who he was. He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser. I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.

Catering to people like Epstein are how you get where she is, unless you come from a very powerful family full of people like...Epstein.

A lot of you really don't want to accept how power and the acquisition of power work. Is it that you're scared to face how power works or does it hurt too much to accept that personal brilliance and hard work won't get you there?

You don’t believe a woman can become general counsel at a global financial institution without kissing a pedophile’s a$$?

You struggle with conceptual thinking, don't you? Let me help you: No one attains a highly sensitive position of power like White House Counsel without the backing of elite powerbrokers. No one gets that backing without making serious moral and ethical compromises and being willing to look the other way on serious moral and ethical misdeeds.

[Anonymous]

NP. Some real all-or-nothing thinking I’m this thread. Yes, every person with power (White House, etc) will face some moral compromises and interact with some shady people.

Not everyone will accepts gifts from and cozy up to pedophiles. Which is why there are plenty of elites and billionaires who do not appear in these files.

Agree with a PP that saying “everyone does it” (when the “it” is being literal besties with a notorious pedophile) is itself a form of enabling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. Some real all-or-nothing thinking I’m this thread. Yes, every person with power (White House, etc) will face some moral compromises and interact with some shady people.

Not everyone will accepts gifts from and cozy up to pedophiles. Which is why there are plenty of elites and billionaires who do not appear in these files.

Agree with a PP that saying “everyone does it” (when the “it” is being literal besties with a notorious pedophile) is itself a form of enabling.

Another one with conceptual thinking deficits. The principle you should have distilled isn't "everyone does it." Rather, it's to understand that the system of power we have is extremely corrupt and you must stop stupidly putting faith in the cover stories and mythologies with which these people explain their rise and cover their tracks. We, the People, cannot perform our watchdog function and hold power to count when we are so credulous. An investigation of EVERYONE in key positions throughout every administration in which Epstein operated is the least we should be demanding here. In a different country of people who hadn't internalized the falsehood that the powerful are heroes to be idolized, a government-wide investigation, along with investigation of private actors who were utilizing the revolving door throughout, would be already underway.

You're not doing anything special sitting around knowing that a literal cabal of pedophiles operated in this country for decades and then waiting for random unredacted names to leak so you can gasp and virtue signal with how shocked you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Some real all-or-nothing thinking I’m this thread. Yes, every person with power (White House, etc) will face some moral compromises and interact with some shady people.

Not everyone will accepts gifts from and cozy up to pedophiles. Which is why there are plenty of elites and billionaires who do not appear in these files.

Agree with a PP that saying “everyone does it” (when the “it” is being literal besties with a notorious pedophile) is itself a form of enabling.

Another one with conceptual thinking deficits. The principle you should have distilled isn't "everyone does it." Rather, it's to understand that the system of power we have is extremely corrupt and you must stop stupidly putting faith in the cover stories and mythologies with which these people explain their rise and cover their tracks. We, the People, cannot perform our watchdog function and hold power to count when we are so credulous. An investigation of EVERYONE in key positions throughout every administration in which Epstein operated is the least we should be demanding here. In a different country of people who hadn't internalized the falsehood that the powerful are heroes to be idolized, a government-wide investigation, along with investigation of private actors who were utilizing the revolving door throughout, would be already underway.

You're not doing anything special sitting around knowing that a literal cabal of pedophiles operated in this country for decades and then waiting for random unredacted names to leak so you can gasp and virtue signal with how shocked you are.

Respectfully, I think you think I’m more naive than I am. And somehow that you uniquely in this thread have the proverbial eyes to see.

But there are a lot of elite names that do not appear in these files. And obviously there are plenty that do. This thread is about the difference between those two categories of elites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Some real all-or-nothing thinking I’m this thread. Yes, every person with power (White House, etc) will face some moral compromises and interact with some shady people.

Not everyone will accepts gifts from and cozy up to pedophiles. Which is why there are plenty of elites and billionaires who do not appear in these files.

Agree with a PP that saying “everyone does it” (when the “it” is being literal besties with a notorious pedophile) is itself a form of enabling.

Another one with conceptual thinking deficits. The principle you should have distilled isn't "everyone does it." Rather, it's to understand that the system of power we have is extremely corrupt and you must stop stupidly putting faith in the cover stories and mythologies with which these people explain their rise and cover their tracks. We, the People, cannot perform our watchdog function and hold power to count when we are so credulous. An investigation of EVERYONE in key positions throughout every administration in which Epstein operated is the least we should be demanding here. In a different country of people who hadn't internalized the falsehood that the powerful are heroes to be idolized, a government-wide investigation, along with investigation of private actors who were utilizing the revolving door throughout, would be already underway.

You're not doing anything special sitting around knowing that a literal cabal of pedophiles operated in this country for decades and then waiting for random unredacted names to leak so you can gasp and virtue signal with how shocked you are.

Respectfully, I think you think I’m more naive than I am. And somehow that you uniquely in this thread have the proverbial eyes to see.

But there are a lot of elite names that do not appear in these files. And obviously there are plenty that do. This thread is about the difference between those two categories of elites.

NP, but I honestly don’t understand what point you think you’re making. The person to whom you responded is 100% spot on.

You say they’re “enabling” or “normalizing” this behavior by… pointing it out? Are you insane? The files themselves PROVE that this depravity IS business as usual and has been for (at least) decades! That happens not because everyone in a position of power is a literal pedophile rapist, but because the VAST majority of those in power, at a minimum, choose/chose to look the other way.

I suspect you’ve done plenty of looking the other way on various matters in your career and that’s why you’re so defensive.

It’s all right there clear as day for all of us to see. And who is the only person in jail over this decades long global child sex trafficking ring? Oh that’s right, the woman. Wake up.

[Anonymous]

Kathy then provided simple advice to all young people wondering how to reach their goals: “don’t be a jerk.” Kathy attributed her success to working hard, doing good work, and being a good person. She stressed that although there are a few outliers, nice people still finish first because everyone wants to work with those who are nice to be around.

https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/8522-emerging-women-leaders-at-penn-law-nice-people


So then does this officially prove once and for all that “nice people finish last”? Look at how fake this crap really is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm really disappointed. There's no way she didn't know who he was. Do I think she is a pedo? No. But she loved his attention, she loved his gifts. She turned a blind eye to who he was. He was buying her spa days at Four Seasons and designer bags.

It just goes to show that you can have a fancy degree, fancy jobs and still be a complete, pathetic loser. I hope she never lives this down and it mars her reputation.

Catering to people like Epstein are how you get where she is, unless you come from a very powerful family full of people like...Epstein.

A lot of you really don't want to accept how power and the acquisition of power work. Is it that you're scared to face how power works or does it hurt too much to accept that personal brilliance and hard work won't get you there?

You don’t believe a woman can become general counsel at a global financial institution without kissing a pedophile’s a$$?

You struggle with conceptual thinking, don't you? Let me help you: No one attains a highly sensitive position of power like White House Counsel without the backing of elite powerbrokers. No one gets that backing without making serious moral and ethical compromises and being willing to look the other way on serious moral and ethical misdeeds.

Baby I don’t know why you are making ad hominem attacks here. It is unnecessary to tell other posters they “struggle with conceptual thinking.” Is that how you converse with people in real life?

Either engage in civil discussion or don’t respond.

Many people at the top are corrupt and immoral. But it’s not everyone. I know A FEW people personally who have served as cabinet secretaries, Senators and a bunch of representatives. Like, 10 people. They aren’t evil.

So it’s not “everyone”.

Besides that, I don’t know what your point is. Kathy R is a basic b who sold her soul for a Birken. What a loser.