Mr. Brain Worm(RFK)/Public Health Megathread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I don't understand his motivation.

Is he being paid by Big Beef and Big Dairy?

What's the end goal here?

Following health “influencers” instead of scientists. He literally has no clue. He decides what his end goal is and then “finds” evidence to support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't understand his motivation.

Is he being paid by Big Beef and Big Dairy?

What's the end goal here?

Following health “influencers” instead of scientists. He literally has no clue. He decides what his end goal is and then “finds” evidence to support it.

+1. The administration that bleated about plagiarism actually released a health report earlier this year with AI generated fake references to serve up their predetermined outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

butter IS better than seed oils through worse than monosaturated fats.

Beef tallow is just weird. I'd change butter to beef tallow in your post.

No. When you post this, it is obvious you are getting your info from random social media influencers. Folks who are also probably shilling wellness supplements to profit off of you.

Keep on keeping cardiologists in business though!

Our new food guidelines were brought to you buy the meat and dairy industries seeking to make money off of you- literally. Check the new guidelines. What a scam.

So were the olds ones. It's always been a problem. Milk consumption in this country is ridiculous!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

Its really weird to have people defend the public health status quo. Everyone's fat, allergic to everything, getting cancer in their 20's and disabled by 40.

Pushing back on harmful “solutions” is not the same as defending the status quo. MAGA needs to get over the idea that questioning their leaders is an attack on freedom, justice, public health, America, etc.

If your house was on fire and some rando showed up with an axe and started chopping away at your car, objecting to that isn’t the same as saying “I want my house to continue to be on fire”.

There are more obvious culprits, like PFAS and Roundup and all the thousands of other food additives and unregulated, untested chemicals being dumped into the environment. Fast food and social media engineered to be addictive. Structural issues in low income communities, like food deserts, unstable housing, and lack of walkability, that contribute to poor diet. And so on.

Instead, RFK is ideologically driven and pushing junk science and food pyramids dictated by lobbyists instead of nutrition experts. We deserve better.

Oh yes, the old science derived food pyramid was great wasn’t it? Fattened people up like cattle with all those grains. Make Diabetus Great Again!

The original pyramid wasn’t science-derived either. It was heavily influenced by Big Ag. Hence the recommendation for 6-11 servings of wheat and corn per day.

Here’s a novel idea: we could allow an independent panel of actual nutritionists and scientists to make dietary recommendations, instead of farming it out (no pun intended) to the highest bidder. Money talks, and it’s making us all sicker.

[Anonymous]

Because nobody seems to know, the pyramid was not used since 2011. We had switched to MyPlate with a visual depiction of how your plate should be filled.

Website still up.... for now

https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/what-is-myplate

Also here's some research comparing fats like butter to seed oils. If you're hearing a lot about seed oils from random influencers, perhaps fact check that vs actual research? Also, do not follow anyone shilling wellness products (e.g. Mark Hyman, he is horrible. Charisma doesn't mean people have integrity or are actually correctly interpreting research).

"There was a statistically significant association between higher intakes of canola, soybean, and olive oils and lower total mortality, with HRs per 5-g/d increment of 0.85 (95% CI, 0.78-0.92), 0.94 (95% CI, 0.91-0.96), and 0.92 (95% CI, 0.91-0.94), respectively (all P for trend < .001). Every 10-g/d increment in plant-based oils intake was associated with an 11% lower risk of cancer mortality (HR, 0.89; 95% CI, 0.85-0.94; P for trend < .001) and a 6% lower risk of CVD mortality (HR, 0.94; 95% CI, 0.89-0.99; P for trend = .03), whereas a higher intake of butter was associated with higher cancer mortality (HR, 1.12; 95% CI, 1.04-1.20; P for trend < .001). Substituting 10-g/d intake of total butter with an equivalent amount of total plant-based oils was associated with an estimated 17% reduction in total mortality (HR, 0.83; 95% CI, 0.79-0.86; P < .001) and a 17% reduction in cancer mortality (HR, 0.83; 95% CI, 0.76-0.90; P < .001).

Conclusions and relevance: In this cohort study, higher intake of butter was associated with increased mortality, while higher plant-based oils intake was associated with lower mortality. Substituting butter with plant-based oils may confer substantial benefits for preventing premature deaths."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40048719/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

Its really weird to have people defend the public health status quo. Everyone's fat, allergic to everything, getting cancer in their 20's and disabled by 40.

Pushing back on harmful “solutions” is not the same as defending the status quo. MAGA needs to get over the idea that questioning their leaders is an attack on freedom, justice, public health, America, etc.

If your house was on fire and some rando showed up with an axe and started chopping away at your car, objecting to that isn’t the same as saying “I want my house to continue to be on fire”.

There are more obvious culprits, like PFAS and Roundup and all the thousands of other food additives and unregulated, untested chemicals being dumped into the environment. Fast food and social media engineered to be addictive. Structural issues in low income communities, like food deserts, unstable housing, and lack of walkability, that contribute to poor diet. And so on.

Instead, RFK is ideologically driven and pushing junk science and food pyramids dictated by lobbyists instead of nutrition experts. We deserve better.

Oh yes, the old science derived food pyramid was great wasn’t it? Fattened people up like cattle with all those grains. Make Diabetus Great Again!

The original pyramid wasn’t science-derived either. It was heavily influenced by Big Ag. Hence the recommendation for 6-11 servings of wheat and corn per day.

Here’s a novel idea: we could allow an independent panel of actual nutritionists and scientists to make dietary recommendations, instead of farming it out (no pun intended) to the highest bidder. Money talks, and it’s making us all sicker.

Wonder if OP was this stressed out about the old pyramid for 15 years?

[Anonymous]

Just in case anyone missed it, the EPA is about to let Big Farm dump PFAS fertilizers on our vegetables.

How can you even have a conversation about health in America while ignoring the fact that we are literally growing marinating ourselves and our children from conception to death in cancer causing forever chemicals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

Its really weird to have people defend the public health status quo. Everyone's fat, allergic to everything, getting cancer in their 20's and disabled by 40.

Pushing back on harmful “solutions” is not the same as defending the status quo. MAGA needs to get over the idea that questioning their leaders is an attack on freedom, justice, public health, America, etc.

If your house was on fire and some rando showed up with an axe and started chopping away at your car, objecting to that isn’t the same as saying “I want my house to continue to be on fire”.

There are more obvious culprits, like PFAS and Roundup and all the thousands of other food additives and unregulated, untested chemicals being dumped into the environment. Fast food and social media engineered to be addictive. Structural issues in low income communities, like food deserts, unstable housing, and lack of walkability, that contribute to poor diet. And so on.

Instead, RFK is ideologically driven and pushing junk science and food pyramids dictated by lobbyists instead of nutrition experts. We deserve better.

+1

And the current admin rolled back PFA limits in our drinking water and is approving new ones for use in farming. Meanwhile they act concerned about fertility which is harmed by pfa exposure.

Pesticides are linked to obesity. The MAGAs that support the Trump administration and think it will lead to improved health are utter idiots! The Trump administration is bought and paid for by the agriculture and chemical industries. Their actions seek to make themselves richer, not improve our health.

+1. It’d be nice if they’d apply some of that “gold standard” science of theirs to the proven cancer causing chemicals first, instead of vitamin K shots and vaccines intended to keep healthy little babies from turning into brain damaged babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

Look up butryic acid.

[Anonymous]

If Trump doesn’t start a war, RFK will be the most dangerous man in America, bar none. A lot of people missed the headlines.

RFK is currently undermining liability protections for vaccine makers. It could make vaccines compeltely inaccessible, or the development of new ones impossible.

He also recently removed an FDA website warning people about the dangers of chelation therapy to try to treat autism. Chelation "therapy" has caused severe adverse events and deaths in children whose parents stupidly gave it to them. It has absolutely basis in science whatsoever for treating autism.

RFK also just made it so that states no longer have to report medicaid, CHIP vaccination rates to CMS either. Just utter insanity.


Again, RFK without question is the single most dangerous man in America. Preventable infectious diseases are skyrocketing. The war on vaccines is far more worse than you can possibly imagine of you havent been paying very deep attention to very specific news. He is also pushing all sorts of whacko, insano ideas onto the public for health treatments. We literally have the dumbest idiots on the planet right now in charge of public health, and the consequences are catastrophic.

[Anonymous]

The evidence is pretty clear on red meat too. It should be eaten in moderation and chicken/fish are healthier. Red meat consumption increases your risk of cancer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The evidence is pretty clear on red meat too. It should be eaten in moderation and chicken/fish are healthier. Red meat consumption increases your risk of cancer.

But we banned red dye in unhealthy sugary foods!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

butter IS better than seed oils through worse than monosaturated fats.

Beef tallow is just weird. I'd change butter to beef tallow in your post.

No. When you post this, it is obvious you are getting your info from random social media influencers. Folks who are also probably shilling wellness supplements to profit off of you.

Keep on keeping cardiologists in business though!

Our new food guidelines were brought to you buy the meat and dairy industries seeking to make money off of you- literally. Check the new guidelines. What a scam.

OK Big Rapeseed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so frustrated with everything he is doing to damage public health. I thought it would be appropriate to make a thread to discuss this. He has made it more difficult to access certain vaccines and I am legitimately worried that he will pull my kids vaccines off the market before they are able to get them. According to him butter is apparently a health food now, measles causes autism, and mRNA vaccines cause cancer. There is no area of public health he hasn’t attempted to destroy. This is exactly what happens when you hire a lawyer with no knowledge about medicine or public health to run HHS.

butter IS better than seed oils through worse than monosaturated fats.

Beef tallow is just weird. I'd change butter to beef tallow in your post.

No. When you post this, it is obvious you are getting your info from random social media influencers. Folks who are also probably shilling wellness supplements to profit off of you.

Keep on keeping cardiologists in business though!

Our new food guidelines were brought to you buy the meat and dairy industries seeking to make money off of you- literally. Check the new guidelines. What a scam.

OK Big Rapeseed

That is all ya got?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Trump doesn’t start a war, RFK will be the most dangerous man in America, bar none. A lot of people missed the headlines.

RFK is currently undermining liability protections for vaccine makers. It could make vaccines compeltely inaccessible, or the development of new ones impossible.

He also recently removed an FDA website warning people about the dangers of chelation therapy to try to treat autism. Chelation "therapy" has caused severe adverse events and deaths in children whose parents stupidly gave it to them. It has absolutely basis in science whatsoever for treating autism.

RFK also just made it so that states no longer have to report medicaid, CHIP vaccination rates to CMS either. Just utter insanity.


Again, RFK without question is the single most dangerous man in America. Preventable infectious diseases are skyrocketing. The war on vaccines is far more worse than you can possibly imagine of you havent been paying very deep attention to very specific news. He is also pushing all sorts of whacko, insano ideas onto the public for health treatments. We literally have the dumbest idiots on the planet right now in charge of public health, and the consequences are catastrophic.

You ever wonder why vaccines need special legal protection no other form of healthcare gets? We still make antibiotics and replace knees without special legal immunity.