MLS next HG vs AD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are these different age cutoffs going to last? there is no continuity between tiers and there is no chance for Aug+ birthdays to break in at u13. It’s like they want all the top kids up to u12 to go to AD and then somehow form a HG team with BY players

How many threads are you going to start with this August birthday nonsense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are these different age cutoffs going to last? there is no continuity between tiers and there is no chance for Aug+ birthdays to break in at u13. It’s like they want all the top kids up to u12 to go to AD and then somehow form a HG team with BY players

How many threads are you going to start with this August birthday nonsense?

PP is spot on. What they are asking clubs to do and parents and kids to put up with is ridiculous. Only people for it are Q1/Q2 families. Enjoy it while it lasts bc it won’t be sustainable.

[Anonymous]

Have mlsnext clubs announced how they will group the younger/pre mlsnext ages? I’ve heard of at least one that plans to keep the top team BY and the second and below teams will change to SY. Another I’ve heard will change all u9-u12 teams to SY and make the change to BY for the top team at u13. I don’t think any of this has been formally announced yet, just rumors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have mlsnext clubs announced how they will group the younger/pre mlsnext ages? I’ve heard of at least one that plans to keep the top team BY and the second and below teams will change to SY. Another I’ve heard will change all u9-u12 teams to SY and make the change to BY for the top team at u13. I don’t think any of this has been formally announced yet, just rumors.

It’s not rumors. All clubs have formally announced this. They have literally laid out that ONLY mls Next is allowed to go birth year. Since it starts at U13 you don’t need to be Miss Cleo to confirm that all ages below this are going to be school year.

Come on now.

[Anonymous]

And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

They aren't playing a grade up or down. They are playing their age group.

No such thing as grade levels in travel soccer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

They aren't playing a grade up or down. They are playing their age group.

No such thing as grade levels in travel soccer

No but college recruiting is based on graduation year. So if you are a player with an August birthday in the Class of 2029, then you are competing with other players in the Class of 2029 for college recruiting class spots. There is no benefit to you to play on a club team that is almost entirely Class of 2030 players. You aren't competing with those players for college recruiting spots so why would you want to play on a club team with them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have mlsnext clubs announced how they will group the younger/pre mlsnext ages? I’ve heard of at least one that plans to keep the top team BY and the second and below teams will change to SY. Another I’ve heard will change all u9-u12 teams to SY and make the change to BY for the top team at u13. I don’t think any of this has been formally announced yet, just rumors.

It’s not rumors. All clubs have formally announced this. They have literally laid out that ONLY mls Next is allowed to go birth year. Since it starts at U13 you don’t need to be Miss Cleo to confirm that all ages below this are going to be school year.

Come on now.

That’s not true, there are some clubs keeping younger ages BY so it aligns with u13 and up. Strikers FC is one that announced this. BY teams would play up in a SY system so clubs are “allowed” to do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

They aren't playing a grade up or down. They are playing their age group.

No such thing as grade levels in travel soccer

No but college recruiting is based on graduation year. So if you are a player with an August birthday in the Class of 2029, then you are competing with other players in the Class of 2029 for college recruiting class spots. There is no benefit to you to play on a club team that is almost entirely Class of 2030 players. You aren't competing with those players for college recruiting spots so why would you want to play on a club team with them?

College recruiting is based on individual skills and potential
How many times have you heard, players are recruited, not teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

They aren't playing a grade up or down. They are playing their age group.

No such thing as grade levels in travel soccer

No but college recruiting is based on graduation year. So if you are a player with an August birthday in the Class of 2029, then you are competing with other players in the Class of 2029 for college recruiting class spots. There is no benefit to you to play on a club team that is almost entirely Class of 2030 players. You aren't competing with those players for college recruiting spots so why would you want to play on a club team with them?

If DC isn’t good enough to play up with graduating year, then DC isn’t good enough to be recruited with graduating class.

You need to accept that, first and foremost, kids have to be good enough to be recruited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And yes that means MLS Next II is school year for every age, and mls Next is BY. Anything outside of MLSN is SY. There’s nothing for clubs to “handle.” And enough w the dumb BS about trapped players!!
Your player is not trapped if they are August and play SY. And you’re not repeating anything if you do U13 again. It’s just playing.
AND TRY TO REMEMBER to HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

Not to mention whether it’s next season or later, at some point, if your DC has an 8/1-12/31 birthday and has been playing with the grade up in the current BY system, they will have to “repeat” an age group before they graduate high school . And it will not be the end of the world folks.

They aren't playing a grade up or down. They are playing their age group.

No such thing as grade levels in travel soccer

No but college recruiting is based on graduation year. So if you are a player with an August birthday in the Class of 2029, then you are competing with other players in the Class of 2029 for college recruiting class spots. There is no benefit to you to play on a club team that is almost entirely Class of 2030 players. You aren't competing with those players for college recruiting spots so why would you want to play on a club team with them?

If DC isn’t good enough to play up with graduating year, then DC isn’t good enough to be recruited with graduating class.

You need to accept that, first and foremost, kids have to be good enough to be recruited.

You mean everyone doesn't get a trophy for life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have mlsnext clubs announced how they will group the younger/pre mlsnext ages? I’ve heard of at least one that plans to keep the top team BY and the second and below teams will change to SY. Another I’ve heard will change all u9-u12 teams to SY and make the change to BY for the top team at u13. I don’t think any of this has been formally announced yet, just rumors.

It’s not rumors. All clubs have formally announced this. They have literally laid out that ONLY mls Next is allowed to go birth year. Since it starts at U13 you don’t need to be Miss Cleo to confirm that all ages below this are going to be school year.

Come on now.

That’s not true, there are some clubs keeping younger ages BY so it aligns with u13 and up. Strikers FC is one that announced this. BY teams would play up in a SY system so clubs are “allowed” to do anything.

I have heard some MLSN clubs are thinking of keeping their top 1 or 2 U8-12 BY, with teams 3 and below SY. The BY teams would just play up (or we may eventually see some MLSN only U8-12 leagues). I personally think that is an organizational mess in the making, and they will drop this after a year or so.

How these clubs with MLSN1 form the rest of their teams really depends on the scale of the club and where they make their money. There are some that are heavily dependent on U8-12 (massive numbers of teams that play in internal leagues) and then only have 1/2 teams at U13+. Those will likely stay mostly BY. Then you have other MLSN1 clubs that are more dependent for cash flow on all of their U13+ teams (which will all be SY) and bringing in MLSN1 players from other clubs. I think they will mainly switch to SY and just form BY MLSN1 teams.

I'm not confidant most of these clubs can juggle a complicated age group split well but we'll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have mlsnext clubs announced how they will group the younger/pre mlsnext ages? I’ve heard of at least one that plans to keep the top team BY and the second and below teams will change to SY. Another I’ve heard will change all u9-u12 teams to SY and make the change to BY for the top team at u13. I don’t think any of this has been formally announced yet, just rumors.

It’s not rumors. All clubs have formally announced this. They have literally laid out that ONLY mls Next is allowed to go birth year. Since it starts at U13 you don’t need to be Miss Cleo to confirm that all ages below this are going to be school year.

Come on now.

That’s not true, there are some clubs keeping younger ages BY so it aligns with u13 and up. Strikers FC is one that announced this. BY teams would play up in a SY system so clubs are “allowed” to do anything.

I have heard some MLSN clubs are thinking of keeping their top 1 or 2 U8-12 BY, with teams 3 and below SY. The BY teams would just play up (or we may eventually see some MLSN only U8-12 leagues). I personally think that is an organizational mess in the making, and they will drop this after a year or so.

How these clubs with MLSN1 form the rest of their teams really depends on the scale of the club and where they make their money. There are some that are heavily dependent on U8-12 (massive numbers of teams that play in internal leagues) and then only have 1/2 teams at U13+. Those will likely stay mostly BY. Then you have other MLSN1 clubs that are more dependent for cash flow on all of their U13+ teams (which will all be SY) and bringing in MLSN1 players from other clubs. I think they will mainly switch to SY and just form BY MLSN1 teams.

I'm not confidant most of these clubs can juggle a complicated age group split well but we'll see.

What's to juggle? HG an AD clubs will put together a team of the highest level players that they can, up to the age cutoff set by HG or AD league. Exception will be bio-banding which is nothing new. This is not complicated.

[Anonymous]

hmm all this is already decided across the country. No room to speculate.