Rental house in OBX w/ 2 month old - fam has unvaccinated kids

[Anonymous]

I would not go OP, especially with the two month old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kids are fully vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. Let the other families worry about their own.

This.
Being unvaccinated is not contagious condition.
OP, you understand how vaccines work? The ones who are vaccinated are immune. The ones who are not can catch the virus and are unable to fight it off.

Your vaccinated child can be around measle-y kids and will not get measles.
The unvaccinated cousins are not sickened by a virus - yet.

If your 2 month old is out and about in the world, that 2 month old is being exposed to all sorts of viruses and building up standard immunities. The only thing you need to worry about with your family is their kids getting sick with measles, mumps, rubella, any and all poxes, are contagious and spending that contagious time indoors with your unvaccinated child. Meaning, either they are already sick and bringing it with them to the rental or they catch one of those illnesses during the rental time.
Those who are vaccinated will not get sick under those conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kids are fully vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. Let the other families worry about their own.

One of OPs kids is a baby who does not have all their vaccines yet.

Herd immunity is what protects babies until they can get all their vaccinations, and OPs family has opted out of hers immunity.

I would not go until both kids have more vaccines to protect them OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi - my inlaws booked an OBX house for this summer with them + my husband’s 3 siblings and their spouses, all but one of which have kids.

1 sibling has 2 toddlers (will be 5 and 2) unvaccinated, another family has 2 toddlers (3 and 1) but on a “spaced out” vax schedule.

For this trip we’ll have a 2 yo (fully vaxxed) and a 2 month old (obviously not yet eligible to be vaxxed). I was not pregnant when this trip was booked.

I’ve told my husband (he agrees) that I will not be going with our 2 month old, so he’ll be taking the 2 year old alone. Not putting the newborn at risk.

Beyond that now I’m wondering if our 2 year old should even be around her unvaccinated cousins - this is NC and measles cases are starting up, even though she will be up to date for her age. Also curious how others would approach letting the families know. We haven’t let anyone know our plan. Thanks all!

Whatever you hear here, the main person you should be asking this question of is your pediatrician. If you haven't asked them yet, why not? Their opinion should matter way more than anonymous posts on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think it’s insane they haven’t vacxed their kids, there are now unvaccinated kids all around us. But you just don’t know. I guess I wonder how your risk is any different?

Yes… we walk among the living! My 3 year old is unvaxxed. Her 4 older siblings have all their shots.

Why is your 3 year old unvaxxed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kids are fully vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. Let the other families worry about their own.

This.
Being unvaccinated is not contagious condition.
OP, you understand how vaccines work? The ones who are vaccinated are immune. The ones who are not can catch the virus and are unable to fight it off.

Your vaccinated child can be around measle-y kids and will not get measles.
The unvaccinated cousins are not sickened by a virus - yet.

If your 2 month old is out and about in the world, that 2 month old is being exposed to all sorts of viruses and building up standard immunities. The only thing you need to worry about with your family is their kids getting sick with measles, mumps, rubella, any and all poxes, are contagious and spending that contagious time indoors with your unvaccinated child. Meaning, either they are already sick and bringing it with them to the rental or they catch one of those illnesses during the rental time.
Those who are vaccinated will not get sick under those conditions.

You have zero idea how vaccines work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kids are fully vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. Let the other families worry about their own.

This.
Being unvaccinated is not contagious condition.
OP, you understand how vaccines work? The ones who are vaccinated are immune. The ones who are not can catch the virus and are unable to fight it off.

Your vaccinated child can be around measle-y kids and will not get measles.
The unvaccinated cousins are not sickened by a virus - yet.

If your 2 month old is out and about in the world, that 2 month old is being exposed to all sorts of viruses and building up standard immunities. The only thing you need to worry about with your family is their kids getting sick with measles, mumps, rubella, any and all poxes, are contagious and spending that contagious time indoors with your unvaccinated child. Meaning, either they are already sick and bringing it with them to the rental or they catch one of those illnesses during the rental time.
Those who are vaccinated will not get sick under those conditions.

2 months olds do not build immunity. It's only by about 3 that immune systems even work. Unvaccinated children can carry all sorts of viruses whether or not they exhibit symptoms. I wouldn't go. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kids are fully vaccinated, you have nothing to worry about. Let the other families worry about their own.

This.
Being unvaccinated is not contagious condition.
OP, you understand how vaccines work? The ones who are vaccinated are immune. The ones who are not can catch the virus and are unable to fight it off.

Your vaccinated child can be around measle-y kids and will not get measles.
The unvaccinated cousins are not sickened by a virus - yet.

If your 2 month old is out and about in the world, that 2 month old is being exposed to all sorts of viruses and building up standard immunities. The only thing you need to worry about with your family is their kids getting sick with measles, mumps, rubella, any and all poxes, are contagious and spending that contagious time indoors with your unvaccinated child. Meaning, either they are already sick and bringing it with them to the rental or they catch one of those illnesses during the rental time.
Those who are vaccinated will not get sick under those conditions.

I just learned that not all kids who are vaccinated develop immunity. I’m sure the success rate of vaccines varies by disease but I learned that DS was a non-responder to the hepatitis vaccine when they checked his titers before starting an immune suppressive therapy. I would never have known if they didn’t check. I will no longer assume the risk to a vaccinated adult or child is zero around the unvaccinated. With the measles outbreaks, no way I would knowingly spend a week in a confined space with unvaccinated kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi - my inlaws booked an OBX house for this summer with them + my husband’s 3 siblings and their spouses, all but one of which have kids.

1 sibling has 2 toddlers (will be 5 and 2) unvaccinated, another family has 2 toddlers (3 and 1) but on a “spaced out” vax schedule.

For this trip we’ll have a 2 yo (fully vaxxed) and a 2 month old (obviously not yet eligible to be vaxxed). I was not pregnant when this trip was booked.

I’ve told my husband (he agrees) that I will not be going with our 2 month old, so he’ll be taking the 2 year old alone. Not putting the newborn at risk.

Beyond that now I’m wondering if our 2 year old should even be around her unvaccinated cousins - this is NC and measles cases are starting up, even though she will be up to date for her age. Also curious how others would approach letting the families know. We haven’t let anyone know our plan. Thanks all!

Hell no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I think it’s insane they haven’t vacxed their kids, there are now unvaccinated kids all around us. But you just don’t know. I guess I wonder how your risk is any different?

+1

Yes, not vaccinating your kids is dumb and irresponsible. But this isn't a question about your in-laws parenting skills or intelligence. The question is about your family's safety.

Agree with keeping the 2 month old away for a whole host of reasons.

I think this thought exercise will help: If these kids were unvaccinated because they had an allergy to a vaccine ingredient, would you still send your fully 2 year old to spend time with his cousins? Of course you would. Probably worth checking the news in the days leading up to the trip - if there's an active outbreak of measles in either the town where you are going OR in the town your relatives are coming from, it might make sense to cancel (as it would if they were unvaccinated for Good reasons). But in a state of herd immunity, which most places in the country are still at/close to and which certainly, assuming you're in the DC area, your social circle almost certainly is in, a single unvaccinated family is not a big risk.

Unvaccinated people are all around us. Those doing it by choice are dumb, and collectively, they're opening this country up to risk, but one family is not a real risk to your vaccinated 2 year old. There have always, and will always, be people who are unvaccinated due to age or medical conditions. The car ride to the beach is probably 1000x more dangerous to your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think it’s insane they haven’t vacxed their kids, there are now unvaccinated kids all around us. But you just don’t know. I guess I wonder how your risk is any different?

Yes… we walk among the living! My 3 year old is unvaxxed. Her 4 older siblings have all their shots.

Yikes. Looks like Katie Miller has joined this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unvaccinated, like in no vaccinations at all? Sorry, no, we are not going. Do the live off the grid or are just super... I don't even know the word.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I think it’s insane they haven’t vacxed their kids, there are now unvaccinated kids all around us. But you just don’t know. I guess I wonder how your risk is any different?

+1

Yes, not vaccinating your kids is dumb and irresponsible. But this isn't a question about your in-laws parenting skills or intelligence. The question is about your family's safety.

Agree with keeping the 2 month old away for a whole host of reasons.

I think this thought exercise will help: If these kids were unvaccinated because they had an allergy to a vaccine ingredient, would you still send your fully 2 year old to spend time with his cousins? Of course you would. Probably worth checking the news in the days leading up to the trip - if there's an active outbreak of measles in either the town where you are going OR in the town your relatives are coming from, it might make sense to cancel (as it would if they were unvaccinated for Good reasons). But in a state of herd immunity, which most places in the country are still at/close to and which certainly, assuming you're in the DC area, your social circle almost certainly is in, a single unvaccinated family is not a big risk.

Unvaccinated people are all around us. Those doing it by choice are dumb, and collectively, they're opening this country up to risk, but one family is not a real risk to your vaccinated 2 year old. There have always, and will always, be people who are unvaccinated due to age or medical conditions. The car ride to the beach is probably 1000x more dangerous to your kids.

PP here to add - while I think the risk is very low and your husband and 2 year old should go for that reason, it's also worth spelling out that there is a reward for going. Cousin relationships can really be wonderful, and it sounds like your kids have a whole host of cousins who are close-ish to their ages. I know that doesn't feel valuable with a 2 year old and a newborn, but it is, and as your kids age, it can really become wonderful. We've spent a lot of vacations with my kids' cousins (both sides) since the first was born, but it's just in the past year or two (my oldest is 5) that I've gotten to see what a wonderful, magical gift that is to the kids. They LOVE their cousins and they love playing with them, and they have just so much joy and fun when they see them. There's also a risk of your kids missing out (esp. since their vaccine status isn't going to change - these are the cousins your kids have) that is worth considering.

[Anonymous]

Second thread in two days same subject...

Vaccines work

MAGA is brain dead.

OP if you are not a troll don't be an idiot and selfish be a Parent and say hell no to going.

How is this even a question?

Why in the world would you spend time with people that do not vaccinate? They are not worth the air they breathe they are that stupid!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi - my inlaws booked an OBX house for this summer with them + my husband’s 3 siblings and their spouses, all but one of which have kids.

1 sibling has 2 toddlers (will be 5 and 2) unvaccinated, another family has 2 toddlers (3 and 1) but on a “spaced out” vax schedule.

For this trip we’ll have a 2 yo (fully vaxxed) and a 2 month old (obviously not yet eligible to be vaxxed). I was not pregnant when this trip was booked.

I’ve told my husband (he agrees) that I will not be going with our 2 month old, so he’ll be taking the 2 year old alone. Not putting the newborn at risk.

Beyond that now I’m wondering if our 2 year old should even be around her unvaccinated cousins - this is NC and measles cases are starting up, even though she will be up to date for her age. Also curious how others would approach letting the families know. We haven’t let anyone know our plan. Thanks all!

I would be annoyed if my DH burned his leave to go on this trip while leaving me alone with a 2 month old.

100%
Just plan a separate trip for your family. No need to waste PTO for this.