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This is very high school dependent. There are a handful of boarding schools and NYC private schools where that doesn't matter. But for the other 99.9 percent of high school students, it's definitely an issue. MIT, Princeton, Stanford, etc will never take more than 3-4 students from any school. And, of course, they generally take zero. But if they took two in the early round, I don't think Larlo, Maria, and Yaria have any chance at all. |
Only someone from the DMV would call Tommy John school a “feeder” to Harvard… |
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If most of the spots at a given school are already filled during the early round, there is very little chance of success in the regular round—especially since most applicants are targeting T10 schools.
Would counselor know and give some hints at least? |
Try learning to read. The Harvard Crimson, which is Harvard's student newspaper, categorizes Thomas Jefferson magnet as a feeder based on its analysis of data from 2009-2024. What's your data source? https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders |
It's not just a handful. Our kid is at a very good (not top 1%) private and tons of kids are getting into the same colleges every year. I don't think there is a cap. |
Math is your friend. Tommy John has over 2000 students. So if St. Anselm’s, with its class of 30, gets 1 kid into Harvard every three years, it’s Harvard proportion is greater than Tommy John’s, even if Tommy John had it’s banner year of 6 Harvard grads every year. Nobody calls St. Anselm’s a Harvard feeder (not like it even wants to be a Harvard feeder, but that’s another story). You are ignorant of what real Harvard feeders look like. This is because you are DMV. That is all. |
| Our kid goes to a stem public HS in NJ, Graduating class is about 260. MIT gets anywhere from 40-60 apps between EA and RD. 7 kids were accepted this cycle via EA so while there is obvious competition for spots it's quite a generous result. I will add the counselors have been dead on with who should apply where for the best odds. |
Wow, does your counselor actually tell you how many kids get into which schools during early round? |
| Weirdos. Just look at the Instagram pages posted on the other thread showing college acceptances for many of the DMV public and privates. There are many schools, including publics, showing multiples admissions to Ivies and Ivy + schools from the same high school. If your kid is qualified, a school isn’t going to hold against them the fact that another kid in his huge class also happens to be qualified. Stop pitting your kids against each other. Grow up. |
The Crimson article shows the data for both top schools by admitted number of students at Harvard 2009-2024 AND number of enrolled HS students (academic year 2023-2024. St. Anselm's isn't on the list, because it isn't a Harvard feeder, not because it's small. And the Crimson article notes that TJ is the only high school on its list that isn't from the Northeast (other than Harvard Westlake in CA). https://www.thecrimson.com/widget/2024/11/15/top-feeders-data/ |
| It really depends on the high school and the college. For instance, DC’s school has graduating classes of about 90-100, depending on the specific year. UChicago accepts 3-4 kids every year in ED rounds. Last year, the 4th one (in terms of GPA and test scores) was offered a guaranteed transfer instead of acceptance. These were all top 10 percent kids in graduating class. Clearly, they were being compared. |
no, there's no guarantee from the counselors as to how many slots they will get. But they do share past stats including ECs and overall profile from students previously admitted to specific schools. It's the only way students get an honest perspective of whether they have a solid shot or not from their high school. Despite all this there are still plenty that take a stab at it and get the expected result. |
| I would suspect one of the three applicants might get in, IF the ED admits were recruited athletes. Different bucket. But the size of the university matters here. The bigger, the better. At least from an applicants point of view. |
TJ sends about as many as Exeter just like Stuyvesant sends about as many as Andover. |